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Dropped axle question

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by BIG-JIM, Dec 25, 2012.

  1. BIG-JIM
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    Sorry if this sounds like a stupid question but here goes. Is there a front & back of a dropped axle? Or does it matter what way it goes? If it can be installed backwards; what is the easiest way to tell the correct side? Again sorry if the question sounds stupid.:eek:
     
  2. 117harv
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    No, it can go either way.
     
  3. oj
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    Did you try the little locking pin for the kingpin? Most go in one way and on the back side some act as the spindle stop.
     
  4. lawman
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    "There are no stupid questions " !!!!! LOL
     
  5. 40FordGuy
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    Ditto, what oj said,...Fords us it as a steering stop.

    4TTRUK
     
  6. gimpyshotrods
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    If it car goes up, it is upside down.
     
  7. BIG-JIM
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    ???
     
  8. gimpyshotrods
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    Just making a joke there, Jim.:p
     
  9. BIG-JIM
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    I don't get it...Maybe I've had too much spiked eggnog?:D
     
  10. gimpyshotrods
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    No matter. Drink up, it's Christmas!
     
  11. BIG-JIM
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    My thoughts exactly. Have a Merry one.:)
     
  12. 48FordFanatic
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    So that the drop is up instead of down ...ya know raising the car...
     
  13. BIG-JIM
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    WOW! Now I get it! Time for me to step away from the punchbowl.:D
     
  14. gimpyshotrods
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    Wrong way, Jim! MORE punch, not LESS!:eek:
     
  15. Don's Hot Rods
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    I was ready to draw you a picture. Glad you figured it out, my drawing is terrible. :eek::D

    As you have learned, there is no front or back, but when you put those pins in to retain the kingpin, just go from front to back, which will put that long nut on the backside to act as a steering stop.

    You might also have to dress up the diameter of those pins a little as they sometimes are too fat to go in deep enough. Just a little dressing with a grinder will remove enough material to let them go in. Haven't seen that problem much with original kingpin sets, but only with some aftermarket brands.

    Don
     
  16. BIG-JIM
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    Thanks Don. I'm a little slow today. While we are on the subject: I was installing the spring and I have some questions. The spacers go on top of the spring right? I think I have to open up all the center holes in the spacers & the bottom plate that holds the spring in as the screw heads don't fit through the holes provided. Again sorry for all the questions but I guess that what this place is for.
     
  17. AZbent
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    I agree with gimpy, you need to step up to the punch bowl a few more times.
     
  18. BIG-JIM
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    I'm workin on it!:p
     
  19. spooler41
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    Jim, If you look closely you should see that the hole for the king pin locks are tapered.
    The lock pins go in from the front ,threaded end first and the round headed nut is on the back side . That round head nut is also the steering stop. The large end of the lock pin should pull almost flush with the axle face.

    ..................Jack
     
  20. BIG-JIM
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    Anybody?
     
  21. Don's Hot Rods
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    Sorry, Jim, not understanding what spacers you mean. Do you have a monoleaf front spring ? Those come with spacers, but regular leaf springs do not.

    Don
     
  22. BIG-JIM
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    Don I have a new speedway forged dropped axle and multi leaf spring with reversed eyes. Without the spacers the spring sits up into the cross member so far that when I put the center shackle on it hits the bottom of the cross member not the spring. So the spring is just dangling loosely. I could take some pictures if that will help? I cant draw either.:D
     
  23. BIG-JIM
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    The spacers came with the center shackle (U bolts).
     
  24. Don's Hot Rods
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    Let's see some pictures, Jim. Can't get my head around this one.

    Don
     
  25. 296 V8
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    Sounds to me like
    If you want it low …………. Spacers under the spring pack
    If you want it high ………… Spacers on top of the spring pack
     
  26. BIG-JIM
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    Thats kinda what I was thinking but the spacers are not curved so I would think they would have to go on the top:confused: but then how do you keep the spring located in the center?
     
  27. BIG-JIM
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    You aren't the only one. I spoke with my buddy Bob today and I had him scratching his head. He said he needs to find out too as he is doing a 31 5 window and ordered his spring the other day. I will get a picture in the morning.
     
  28. 296 V8
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    Well if you put um on top you’d need to bolt them to the pack …. You need a longer center bolt
     
  29. Baron
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    I'd add the spacers to the bottom. As long as the spring center bolt fits up into the front cross-member, that will keep the spring/axle centered in the chassis. If you want, you can replace the center bolt with a longer one ( available through your local NAPA store) and bolt the spacers right to the spring. If you decide to go that way, put a couple c-clamps on the spring to hold the assembly together while you replace the spring bolt. Save you some time and the spring won't blow apart when you remove the current bolt.
     
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  30. BIG-JIM
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    Sounds good but I'm still going to have to drill out the center hole in the spacer to clear the bolt holding the spring together. I will get that done in the morning. Looks like I'll be snowed in for a bit anyway. Twenty five degrees outside 60 degrees inside...WooHoo I love my new heated floor.:D
     

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