going to start off the new year trying to beat the rest of the pistons out of the hemi. also i figure i would post a COST HOW MUCH????? chart to show how much these things really cost...even on a budget hemi $700 supercharger $350 harmonic balancer from 340 $25 timing chain cover $22 cans of lube $20 oil filter adapter $18 intake flanges $64 thats all for now....
DANG....good news and bad news. the good i got all the pistons out. the bad...on the last piston i went to beat it out with a piece of oak and sledge hammer and part of the top of the piston popped off. just had to much age i guess and couldnt hold up to the concusion impact. all the others came out with ease by pouring diesel fuel down the cylinders and lighting that bitch on fire. it burns for a little while. couple wacks and the piston slid right out. except for the last one. after noticing the piston chipped i just chiseled it out the rest of the way. i found this rebuild kit on ebay and was wondering if anyone on here has ever bought their product? http://www.ebay.com/itm/170893306821?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649 i went ahead and pulled the cam and lifters also. so now its a bare block. ready for the machine shop.
I've seen their ads on EBay, that's about it. The questions are...Are the pistons guaranteed to be a measured 9:1? Where did the lifters come from? What is the oil pump? (Have you been reading about the oil pump controversy?)
those were some good questions..thanks. i emailed the seller the following. i hope i will recieve some good answers soon. my entire tax return is going towards this hemi and pouring a concrete floor in my garage.... fellow hambers...this new years is going to be a good one.
Well glad to hear you got them all out. I hope the bores will clean up for you, and it only needs the one sleeve. I know pistons are not cheap but you will be glad you did it right instead of having to tear it right back down because of blowby and oil consumption. I've looked at those kits on Ebay myself and wondered if they were any good or not. Please keep us posted on the quality if that is what you end up buying. I would certainly get the block hot tanked, magnifluxed, and see what the bores will clean up at before you go to ordering parts though.
o yea...here is my plans. i will definately keep everyone posted if i do decide to go with the ebay kit. 1st. sleeve the block, have it honed, and magnifluxed. 2nd. have the heads reconditioned. replace valves and springs if needed. 3rd. buy the engine kit 4th. make the intake 5th. buy water pump and adapters 6th. maybe chrome oil pan.....and valve covers???? spark plug tubes 7th start figuring out that transmission thing. would love 6gears but probably settle for 5spd.
Blower intakes show up on EBay from time to time. Replace valve springs. Would you really use 58 year old valves in a blower motor?
Looks like a good start to the year! Yeah, if you're building a blown motor, you will need to replace a few things. Replace the valve springs, retainers, may as well do the guides and replace the stock 2-piece type valves if you have them as well. If you're doing the guides and doing a valve job, there are some ways of doing it a little cheaper using other makes of similar sizes, matching up the guides, and doing some mods. I'm sure someone has a good recipe for it on here. You will also want to do head studs if you're going forced induction. There's a bunch of stuff to consider with pumping up the boost. Check with 73RR for your rebuild kit parts. He can provide you exactly what you need. Between him and TR Waters, you should be covered on about everything. Keep it up!
If you are getting a tax refund large enough to "pour a garage floor" and "rebuild the Hemi", will you please post your tax preparers name and address, it may be worthwile for me to drive to Ky to have them prepare my taxes.
my garage floor should be no more than 1grand. its only a 18x26 the hemi i hope i can do for 2000-2500 thats buying the parts i need and having the machine work done im having Brangers Performance and Machine in elizabethtown to do my engine. i highly respect them. alot of my friends has have their engines done there. here is their website if anyone interested in checking them out. http://brangersracing.com/
I think you may get some sticker shock. I built my 341 Desoto hemi with 2009 dollars. My rebuild kit which included rings bearings and gaskets cost $1200. Head work that included new valve guides hardened seats and stainless valves cost $600 not including the cost of valves from Hot Heads. Other things needed...oil pump, new cam and lifters, timing chain set. My crank only needed polishing. What about a decent intake? Oh yeah lets not forget rocker shaft assembly rebuild. Hemi Haines cost between $250 and $300 plus shipping if all you need is just the basic servicing. If you need parts it goes up. You have a lot more machine work in store for your motor than I did with my 341. Cost of a transmission adapter..$500. $2000-$2500..Me thinks your dreaming.
Dude it will cost you double of what you have predict, in my opinion. keep us posted, for you hope i am wrong
i think i made everyone confused with the last couple posts. yea i know about how high these hemis are. right now no farther than what ive got ive already spent over $1200 in this thing. the 2000-2500 price was to get the engine to a long block stage.....i would still need to buy carbs, make headers, maybe convert the distributor over the a GM type. the transmissin deal i dont even want to think about yet because what im wanting is going to cost probably as much as the engine rebuild itself. this ENGINE is just a small part of a huge build im undertaking. i think i mentioned it somewhere in this thread. im building a 33 5w coupe. all steel. no fiberglass. the frame im expecting is going to take me 4months to fully fabricate. full X member. fully boxed. 3 inch wholes down each side rail and x members. disc brakes all around. wire spoked wheels. 33-34 ford style. going to be freakin nice when done. looking for a blood red and boat flake. back to the PRICE and the prices ive been throwing out there. im doing alot of stuff on my own. ive built several engines before. my daily driver i rebuilt in half a day in the driveway. total cost was right under $300 for the rebuild. this has no comparrison to our beloved hemis. hell a nice set of valve covers cost that.....but im not going for a FULL BLOWN race engine type a deal. im going for more of a shock factor. big engine. loud engine. my god its a hemi! that type of thing. by all means i hope i have not affended anyone. everyone that has posted has given some great input. some have even made me change my mind on some aspects. so as an example.....i was just looking at the average boost rating for the supercharger i bought....its right around 12lbs....someone mentioned head studs.....now im seriouly thinking about making this extra purchase for insurance reasons....i would hate getting it out on its first run and blow that bitch up. anyways.....gotta get some rest. havent been able to get much here the past couple days. found out i have a severe reaction to the PB blaster...makes me break out in hives and makes me itch something aweful. i literally got no sleep last night.
Lets see...some of the stuff that you cannot do at home: (ballpark prices) Complete rocker arm rebuild...600 Stainless steel valves...250 Cam, lifters, springs, retainers, pushrods...700 Forged pistons...733 (my price, others will vary) Rings....125 Con Rods...800 (stock rods will break at 12psi) M50 oil pump...125 Gasket set...225 Head and main studs...250 and the list goes on... .
What are the numbers stamped on the front of the block? I am a little surprised to see those rods in a late build engine.
i will try and get those numbers for you TR. might be a few days. my fabrication JOB and having me work alot of overtime all of a sudden....i dont have lights outside in my garage just yet. plus its darn cold out there right now. its like 28 degrees or something. how much is your stepped key for the 340 harmonic balancer mod? i PMed you...no answer. i would rather buy from HAMB members and support THIS community rather than EVIL EBAY. that is my last resort unless its so cheap i cant resist.
How about a few pic's of that 33 coupe to get us dreaming of the end product , it doesnt matter what it looks like . We all started with something and most weren't showcars at first .
Sounds like a heat wave, must be that global warming thing... It was a toasty 0° this A.M. here in the high desert. .
maybe here in a few weeks. the car isnt even at my house yet. ive gotta dig it out from my fathers place. car is very nice in my eyes. just so hard to find any old mopars. ouch. i cant even imagine dealing with that right now. here in 12 days im going on vaction to the bahamas. 80degree weather here i come! TR i just bought a keyway from you! after making that last post i started cruising ebay and found your listing on them. lol.
yea it was cracked on both sides...couldn't tell untill after it was cleaned. motor had both heads valley pan and oilpan on it. when i got it.
scored some valve covers yesterday 11-9-2013 for $120 they were painted with that wrinkle paint crap. will be buying paint stripper here soon!
I was about ready to buy a set of Firepower valve covers like you did when I was lucky enough to fine a set of scriptless Dodge truck Power Giant 354 covers, They were in good enough condition that I am considering chroming them. I spent about 3 hours removing the wire cover stands so as not to damage the covers for chroming. I guess I will have to hand paint the Dodge Power Giant Lettering unless I can find a repop decal.
got back from my weeks vacation today. it was at the bahamas! loved it to death. 80degree weather was so nice. as soon as i unloaded the lugage i went striaght to the garage and starting working on the hemi. made a engine stand and starting mocking everything up. i decided to mock up the intake and supercharger before machine work incase any welding splatter happened to get on the block. the engine stand is made out of solid ROD. 1 1/4" i will be able to start the engine on this stand also! so later i will make a instrument panel with key so i can start and shut off the engine. i bought some Kings' bearings for the RODS and i could had swore i placed a bid on some main bearings also but i guess i lost signal at sea...at my suprise when i got onshore i had only Rod bearings. i asked the seller if he had any main bearings and he sold out! now im stuck with rod bearings only. does anyone know where i can locate main bearings only?
Congrats on the HEMI- But as Gary mentions^^^^^ Here's a few to concider- Intake/carb/wires/dist...... Cam /lifters/pushrods Oil pump/pick-up/shaft H20 pump assm hedders/materials and the list goes on. These are BOUGHT items. Trades/swaps not counted. Make what you can,but I hope your not blind to "sticker shock". Parts are not cheap! If you can pull this off,and itemize every expenditure besides machine work,and hit your #,and be confident that everything is in top shape,and will certainly last.........then you would be the MAN. I will not doubt at all,until I see the bottom figure. Doing it myself,and KNOW what it costs. Good luck on the build.
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