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dumb question ? 289 windsor engine no location?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by suavemechanic, Jan 7, 2007.

  1. suavemechanic
    Joined: Mar 30, 2006
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    hi ,getting one of my cars on the road and spent over an hour at the inspection station searching for the engine no ! its a bit new for here i know a 66 mustang 289 windsor very standard looking c code
    the raised pad behind the alternator where it could be has an " R" stamped there and thats about it .
    no the guy would not accept "r " as a motor no , he s cool .but if i have to go through the police here to have a number allocated it takes three weeks and they can hold the vehicle as it is assumed you are up to no good .
    its not at the rear of the block on either side or the top in the valley behind the inlet manifold ,and no theres not a lot of room to swing a hammer either so its motor out which i would like to avoid as there is more important stuff to fix
    any ideas guys ?and happy new year
     
  2. ROADRAT EDDIE
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    from New york

    Are you talking about the vehicle ID#?......I think Ford stopped stamping them into the block sometime durig mid-late '65....Pretty sure the only left on those are date codes and individual part #'s
     
  3. suavemechanic
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    thanks for the reply but negative ,the vehicle id is easy to find,last six digits being the engine no .
    some where on the block this should be stamped,and here the authorities need to eye ball this before i get registered.
    if it is missing or tampered with the assumption is you stole it .
    which is a whole lot of hassle for a drive train thats worth about 900 bucks .
    i heard cleveland motors had the number stamped on the deck and getting the decks true usually dissapeared the engine no
    this is my first ford so im a bit ignorant .......
     
  4. A cast number should be on the block behind the starter, it will give you the year only and you will probably have to remove the starter, C=60's D= 70's. That's where they are on the U.S. models, not real sure on the Austrailian ones though.
     
  5. suavemechanic
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    its from the us ,california i think. been off the boat about a year and a half (most of that under the house !) im happy to accept they got lazy for a bit but im not sure that ll fly down at the dmv! a few years back i privately imported a harley and there's no way i could have got that on the road without good numbers
     
  6. Is it in a Mustang or swapped into another car? Ford does not stamp the VIN on the block like GM

    It should be a C, A or K for the motor.

    Stu
     
  7. randy w
    Joined: Nov 16, 2006
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    from tx

    Hello;
    I've got a '63 289 and the motor no. is located on a boss just above the fuel pump in front of the driver side head. I had to use an electric wire brush to clean it before i could read it.:)
     
  8. AnimalAin
    Joined: Jul 20, 2002
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    Most Fords don't have an engine number. The vehicle number is attached to the car.
     
  9. Flat Ernie
    Joined: Jun 5, 2002
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    What AnimalAin said...

    About the only numbers you'll find are casting numbers & date code numbers - there are no serial numbers or VINs on these engines...
     
  10. squirrel
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    you'll find some helpful info on the little metal tag that's held down with the coil mounting bolt. Or, you would have found some helpful info there if some numbskull mechanic had not thrown it away 30 years ago when he did a valve job on the engine.
     
  11. Ford supposedly did not start stamping vin numbers on the engine until the latter part of 1967.
     
  12. suavemechanic
    Joined: Mar 30, 2006
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  13. Find a flat spot on the block and go to town with your number stampers.
     
  14. Flat Ernie
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    Flat Ernie
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    What's your source for this? Not saying it's not true, but been fooling with SBF for 30 years & never seen VIN stamped in the block...

    The metal tags under the coils seemed to vary in what info is on them - I wouldn't expect one to have the VIN...
     
  15. lowsquire
    Joined: Feb 21, 2002
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    from Austin, TX

    huh?
    my 289 has an engine number stamped in it, on the left front as you are standing in front of the motor, just behind the dipstick tube.Fancy serifed stamps, so im assuming they are factory.
    ahh but i just remembered my 302 in the shoebox(american engine) didnt have an engine number, so i stamped the chassis no. into it.just pulled the radiator to get some hammer swinging room.
    Maybe australian motors were stamped. Victorian reg. requires an engine number and a chassis no.
     

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