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  1. K13
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    The Ebay listing is clearly more than what Speedway sells for. I am going to bet the OP was sucked in by the free shipping and instead of actually looking at what he was buying just ordered it based on that to save the shipping costs because nothing else in the listing is misleading in any way as to what was charged or who sold it.
     
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  2. snoc653
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    I completely understand how this happened. You are still not grasping how Speedway did nothing wrong. You think because they say you ordered the part, they must be involved. They wouldn't recognize your voice from anyone else's voice claiming to be you. When they say you ordered the part, they know that someone gave your name, address, and order. That's what they know, and to them that means you ordered the part and they shipped it. Then days later, you call claiming they overcharged you. They pull up the order and see where they charged the person claiming to be you what was supposed to be charged. They again don't know you from Adam, and the deal is 100% correct on their end. The only people that did anything wrong was 1) the eBay seller and 2) the eBay buyer. The seller over charged you and wasn't up front about how they do business. They may or may not have violated eBay policy. And the buyer is at fault for not paying enough attention to what they were doing. Yes, you should have known who you were giving your money to. You should have kept copies of the ad and been able to go back and see that the seller was not Speedway. And most importantly the buyer is wrong for not understanding exactly what happened and mistakenly blaming a company that laterally did nothing wrong. Them not knowing that someone claiming to be you isn't really you, is not them doing anything wrong. Even if the ebay seller used your credit card to buy the stuff, Speedway wouldn't be the one doing anything wrong. They would have no way of knowing if you gave someone your info to order for you (which you did) or if someone found your wallet and was just using your card. If the card cleared and they shipped the product that would be between you and whomever used your card. It is a natural to want this to be someone else's fault, but the fact of the matter is, you made a mistake and the eBay seller is equally responsible for the mistake you made. But Speedway really doesn't have a dog in this fight other than their name has been tarnished. And if they wanted to fight that fight, you would also be in their sights as you are the one claiming they did something wrong.
     
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  3. Mr48chev
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    Actually they don't even claim that they were him. They just place the order with send to this address and pay for it.

    Anything actually sold by Speedway on Ebay or Amazon will have Speedway Lincoln Ne. listed as the seller.
    Amazingly if you do a search for Ford Flathead Alternator bracket The speedway one and the overpriced seller in Oyster Bay NY show up together. You done fucked yourself there bubba. This guy makes no bones about the fact that he is reselling a Speedway bracket at a higher price.
    Note that the overpriced one does not list a seller on the search popups.

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  4. Mr48chev
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    When Speedway sells on Amazon it shows that you are buying it on Amazon from Speedway over on the side. That says that Speedway is selling the part and it is shipped from Speedway.
    Yes I know it is a different bracket at a different price but they didn't show the gold one.
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  5. Squablow
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    I price check, it's often cheaper on eBay than it is in the catalog. I know I ordered some stuff for a friend of mine and he wanted to see what the price was online versus his catalog, was cheaper to get through eBay. Plus, for smaller stuff, you can see what the shipping is going to be up-front. (not sure if that's an issue with Speedway but it is with some catalog sellers).
     
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  6. jimmy six
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    I had the same thing happen. A guy backed over a V-dub nose I was driving for a work car in the mid 80’s so I turned it into a Baja bug… I bought a set of headers from JC and the box came from T-bird products and had one of Ernie’s decals in the box. I paid $19.95 for them. I was friends with Ermie and walking around a swap meet with him I mentioned the headers…. He turned and looked at me and said “What… I can’t make them for that!” Then we laughed….
     
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  7. MCjim
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    There are no victims, only volunteers...
     
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  8. 1971BB427
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    If the seller was the crook, and as you say they ordered the part using your name from Speedway I can't see how Speedway did anything wrong? Of course they have an obligation to give you back what the crooked seller paid them, but they have no obligation to pay you the extra that the crook charged, nor do they have any obligation to correct your error in not noticing that you really weren't buying direct from them.
    I understand your frustration at some crook trying to take you, but that's between you and the crook, not Speedway.
     
  9. K13
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    Unless the seller used the OP's credit card to pay Speedway (which we don't know) nothing he did was being a crook. His ad clearly states his company name and the price of the goods. The OP was sold exactly what was advertised for exactly the price that was advertised. If Ebay states you can only sell goods you have in you're possession then the seller broke that ebay rule but he certainly didn't mislead what or how much he was selling for.
     
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  10. 19Eddy30
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    I am some one that will speak out , I try to watch my words , I have dealt / order from Speedways motors since early 80s ,
    They Have aways took care of a Issue ,
    Not many , but there one Issues I have from few years ago on a third members,
    It was full of Metal, rusted bearings , I provided all pics documents sent , it was supposed to be built to order it clearly was not, I even disputed charges with my bank, It's kind of hard to argue the case to someone who does not know what the problem is, ( by the pictures) My dispute was rejected,,,
    SWM & Bank consider a special order because they're made/Assembled to order ,I ended up disassembling installing new bearings and setting it up,,cost $ & time.
    I still order from them S-W-M,

    In this case, Op "Complaint" is Not with
    SWM, Its with the 3rd , 4th party , seller!
     
  11. Mr48chev
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    I've found that to be the case with a few Chevy truck specific vendors. Their price might be a few percent less but they beat you up on shipping costs. Some charge a handling fee. The one I usually deal with ships small items in USPS priority boxes and advertises that what ever will fit in a certain size box ships for what USPS says that box ships for.

    I'm cheap, I usually price check everything and lately compare the price at the local parts house against buying online and paying shipping. If it is a name brand item and not a house brand item I search the part number and see what the best all around deal is.
     
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  12. 19Eddy30
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    Yes & No !!!
    I work on quite many different projects equipment automotive, most the time between 12 AM to 4 AM I'm placing orders, So for me I can order from many Vender add to cart on Ebay & make One payment ,
    Summit used to be 24 hours but no longer,
    Certain big items I ordered directly from the manufacturer that way there's no middleman If there a issue..
    And another thing I don't understand and I've question some of these manufactures sell cheaper on eBay then I can get through my account directly with them and they have to pay Ebay fees and PayPal fees ,,,
    Summit and Jegs are Two that I know of,
     
  13. If Ebay say that there is no "drop shipping" allowed, this must be the biggest BS of the century! There are thousands of sellers (mostly based in china) that sell gadgets and junk. Just type in any electronic device, and you will get thousands of items from thousands of sellers, and if you look at their items, they would all have to own an aircraft hangar to stock it all. Not in China, that's for sure. That's where Ebay make their money, 1 cent from each item from thousands of drop shippers.
     
  14. bobss396
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    I have bought from the legit Speedway on eBay, it is convenient and just happened to come up in a search for a part I was looking for. I buy a lot on eBay, I have rarely been skunked on anything in 25+ years.

    https://www.ebay.com/str/speedwaymotorscompany
     
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  15. chickenridgerods
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    Some folks should just not use the internet to buy things. Wow.
     
  16. nochop
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    I’ve spent a few hundred bucks on eBay. No problem with free shipping and free return. I bought a new dropped headlight bar that came cracked. Vender sent a prepaid shipping label. No issues, sent out a new bar after verification that the bar was cracked. Item two, I bought a polished SS grill insert (32 ford) I didn’t like it (bars seem a tad small) no damage I just didn’t care for it. Seller sent a pre paid label, refund sent. I do use PayPal tied to my cc. Would I use them again (eBay) absolutely
     
  17. twenty8
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    How are they meant to help with the fact that you stuffed up when you placed your order with a totally different company? It's real easy to see the mistake you made. You need to just own it.
     
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  19. Mr48chev
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    I'd think that would be impossible to stop even if Ebay says that it isn't allowed. That vendor ordering the part from speedway and using a credit card and then listing the OP as who to ship it to has no connection to EBAY.

    Still the vendor stated his price clearly stating that the part was a Speedway item using Speedway images. No fraud there. He priced it at what he wanted even though it was double what Speedway sells them for, sleezy but not fraud as the buyer should check Speedway to see what they sell it for before buying. The actual part that was ordered got delivered to the OP, again no scam as he got exactly what he ordered. Speedway got paid for the part and shipped it to the ship to address, No issue there.


    Personally I don't think this horse has any life in it and it is time to bury it and maybe the next time the OP will do a bit more research before hitting buy from a seller who is collecting a tidy profit from guys who are foolish enough to buy from him.
     
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  20. hotrodlane
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    After reading your responses on this thread you seem to keep blaming Speedway for you getting ripped off. Speedway did nothing wrong here, They were clearly scammed as well by the person on ebay who scammed you. The reason Speedway said you ordered the part is when you bought this on ebay from the seller, He did not have it dropped shipped to you! He got your info from ebay when you checked out and it showed him who and where he needed to ship. All he done was jumped on speedways site and did an order in your name and shipping address and payed with a prepaid giftcard. First off you need to understand that when you checked out through ebays checkout you have to confirm a few times before it goes through and each time it shows your total. So you should have seen you were being charged double. I really doubt this guy who tryed to get you for $37.00 is some super hacker who hacked into ebays checkout and PayPal's payment server. So my guess is when you checked out you just were not paying attention to your total when you checked out. My advice would be to pay closer attention when checking out on future purchases. It sucks someone tried to scam you but you on here ranting about Speedway doing something wrong here is just plain wrong and ricdiculous, As it is clear they were not part of this scam and were also ripped off. Just my 2 cents
     
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  21. the oil soup
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  22. Time for the Mods to close this thread.
     
  23. 5window
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    I think you have good points, but if you would please,kindly, proofread and edit your posts before posting them it would be very helpful. As it is, I have to re-read your posts 3-4 times and even them have only half an idea what you're trying to say. Help us out! :)
     
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  24. twenty8
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    It is always tempting fate somewhat when you criticise others for spelling, grammar, and the like, even if it is done in jest.
    You might want to check your post. I have added a subtle clue.......;)
     
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  25. 19Eddy30
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    I'll try
     
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  26. 5window
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    Point taken.
     
  27. 5window
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    I was going to criticize you for using the spelling "criticise" but then realized that you are probably using the funny UK spelling instead of the more common one. :)
     
  28. twenty8
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    Yes, I am using the original version of English, not the modified US version.
    Not that it matters. Either is seen as correct depending on where you live.
    The "funny UK spelling", as you put it, predates your version by quite some time.
    It's not something that should be a concern.......surely.
    But, hey, thanks for your criticism............ Wait a minute. What happened to the "Z"???:rolleyes::D
     
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