Projects Eagle Field A Gas Dragster Class Build

Tim, Cars running quicker than 11.50 do require a SFI certified bellhousing at NHRA Tracks. Slower cars can get away with a FABBED shield like shown, but I think I've figured out "slower" isn't a term in you and Charlie use Your best option IMO is using the dragster engine plate as an adapter and using a more popular bellhousing. Damn that is sweet looking engine and would love to see one in a Dragster. Also Jess from Eagle Field spoke to Charlie I believe about Y-Block parts. I was at his house and he DOES have a GRIP of parts if you guys are interested, he told me he would sale the stuff cheap. Let me know if you guys want to talk to him. Rocky

 

Feebird, check the HA/GR site found below in the forum jump. Also here is a link to my build thread -> http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=246970
Rocky

 

wow after 2 days of reading the HA/GR area and now this comes up. guess i have to learn how to build a roll cage

 

Revisions made,
Name change, C/GD Cool / Gas dragster
NO canted Valve heads like the Boss 302 Ford
Magnetos allowed on Vintage engines
Solid Lifter allowed on vintage engines
Eagle Field will allow Vintage engines to use remote batteries.
External oil pumps allowed when originally equipped

 

We have already hauled a bunch of it away! I guess you are right about the bell, I plan on building a chassis for higher speeds so I don't want to be limited by other things.




We still have another load to go get, we wont be hurting for Y parts any time soon. We hope to sell a lot of this stuff to finance Charlies Bonneville Comet and it should help with the FED too!

 

What a SCORE! Cool website Tim, I had to quit looking because I start thinkingY-BlockY-BlockY-BlockY-BlockY-BLOCK!

 

They can be addicting.

This is what I have in mind by the way, minus the blower. (for now )

That is the fastest Y out there, at least until the Bonneville Comet hits the salt.

 

From a old drawing from the 60s I re-did this. Kind of where I am thinking as I begin the new build.

 

Dang you Rocky! I FINALLY get all (or at least most) of my bits and pieces together and you come up with this! I would love to build a econo slingshot but I'm ass deep in HA/GR now. I had these same thoughts a couple of months ago about the small c.i. V8's, except for a little larger displacement. Mainly because I have a stock bore '62 327 in the corner.

I think this would be a fantastic idea. I think the frame would be the biggest cost factor. Where there's a will, there's a way. Good luck with the endevour. It makes me wonder though, did my 255 cubic inches of flathead Hellfire scare you out of the class? Ha Ha!

BTW Rocky, I picked up my steel and my body should be ready in a couple of weeks so I will probably be calling you and Lee after we get everything layed out. Please ignore the previous smart assed comment because I need something!

 

Hey Rocky do you know anyone interested in a new set of 34 American Stamping rails to use for a HA/GR? or can they be used for HA/GR.................. Carl

 

How much for the rails Carl?

 

I have been thinking about building a FED with my 292 Y-block, which is sitting in the corner, collecting dust. McTim, you the MAN!

All you CA boys get all the fun....

 

after our current little build our club has been talking about an ha/gr, but damb this sounds good to.

 

"O" don't worry Charlie, Lee won't give up the HA/GR anytime soon I'll be waiting on the call!

Yep if anyone would know it'd be Royal, and I'm sure they would be HA/GR friendly

One thing I learned on our HA/GR is the cage design does not allow any portion of you helmet to get through and be able to make contact anything. Maybe a couple of bars over your head would help, contact your divional tech or at least the track your running I really do like that style of chassis but I doubt NHRA/Famoso would allow it.

 

I've been looking for an excuse for years to buy/ build a rail. I think this is a great idea. I'm gonna start scouting pipe, parts and friends for the build but I have to admit it takes me forever to finish a project. I'm ecstatic because I think I'm gonna have my big block 64 Chevy p/u ready (enough) for the spring event. Would you consider the option of longer wheel base? 180 inches makes a great looking dragster and it could be re-engined/ re-tired and run at Famoso etc... Now that's economical... Just one guy's opinion.

 

Here's some insight from an old post I did years back.

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=46135&highlight=interested+in+new+racing+class

 

11 pages of good reading! I'll be busy tonight!

Roy, to enjoy yourself on a budget you could race these cars and be competitive in ANRA's Open Wheel category. Thhe Open Wheel category is for cars 10 seconds and slower, just get thru basic NHRA Tech and go racing! I THINK that most OTHER series (summit and the like) require a radiator, fan and water pump.........YUK IMO When you run 9.99 and quicker you have to start getting things like SFI Cerifications, NHRA License, Membership and who know what.
For a performance reference I had a 289 (with solid lifter cam, compression, 650DP, zoomie header) with a C-4 auto and 2500 stall convertor in a FED that ran 10.30s. The same engine in my first FED ran a 9.30 best with the main difference being an A-1 Powerglide and an 8" convertor.
I want to stay 150" WB max for an Eagle Field C/Gas class, however if if you show up at the event with a 180" car you'll still be able to run just not for the C/GD GOLD (painted Trophy)he he he he.
We are going to have a ball at the Fresno Dragway Reunion and I'm ready to start right after the 1st of the year to put the final touches on it! Rocky

 

A drawing with a little more thought involved.............

Man I hate that big old cage but O well, maybe I can lay the driver down more or build another car I can't fit in , maybe a "dove tail" chute pack body...........na!

 

I dunno, maybe....................

 

are you going to do a detailed build up on the frame here?

 

Yes John, I going post it all and maybe someone will stop me from making a mistake

 

Not to highjack this thread, but would this car qualify to run at Eagle Field?

Dan Marvin, Owner
Exeter Auto Supply

 

very cool cant wait to see it

 

Ditto! Looks like a lot of interest has been sparked over on yblocksforever on this subject. I know that one of the crew in Finnland is building one right now, I don't think he'll make it to Eagle Field though.

http://www.y-blocksforever.com/forums/Topic28144-5-1.aspx

 

Maybe I missed it, but what do you consider a vintage engine? Also if you have a engine like the early Olds,Cad,Hemi,ect with the long rear bellhousing, can you run a clutch as no steel bell is made.

 

I can twist Rocky's arm to get that one in Dan.

 

Twist or break?

 

Rocky, I suppose I'm going to have to add the extra hoop on the flatmobile if I want to run on NHRA tracks? even if its over 10 sec hummm course I guess its smart to protect yer noggin ...... gotta order some parts to get this thing together before may!!!!!!

 

I think maybe just a light Indian (excuse me, Native American) rub will suffice.

 

Looks good from here Dan. What engines in it?

Really, your shootin for MAY COOOOOOOOOOL!

The "vintage" engine list so far includes Nail Head Buick, Flat Head and Y-Block Fords. The idea has only started and in it's infancy, I will say that if the engine was built in the 50's or earlier it would be considered Vintage. Just remember NO Engines Larger than 325 CI. Also I need to add to the rules the ONLY ALUMINUM HEAD ALLOWED is the FlatHead Ford and engines OE equipped.
The bellhousing answer is yes. NHRA States that ;
"RWD cars running quicker 11.49 or quicker for which an SFI 6.1, 6.2, 6.3, or 9.1 flywheel shield is not commercially available may use an SFI 6.1, 6.2, 6.3, or 9.1 flywheel shield from another application and mount it to the motor plate that is mounted to the engine block at all availible holes; or must be be equipped with a flywheel shield made of 1/4-inch minimum thickness steel plate, securely mounted to the frame or frame structure and completely surrounding surrounding the bellhousing 360 degrees. The flywheel shield shall not be bolted to either the bellhousing or engine. The flywheel shied must extend forward to a point at least 1 inch ahead of the flywheel and 1 inch to the rear of the rotating components of the clutch and pressure plate." NHRA 2008 Rule Book. Please check the current rules when racing at NHRA Sanctioned tracks.
At Eagle Field all C/G Dragsters equipped with a standard/manual transmission must be equipped with a SFI Certified Clutch assy and Flywheel. WEW that was alot of typing, Rocky