as i stated in my intro thread, i'm building a T-bucket. My dad and i have been talking back and forth on what to throw in it and here's what we've come up with: Hudson Pacemaker 6 flathead-my uncle is restoring Hudson Pickup, the old shop truck at my great grandad's dealership. It unfornately spent sometime as a lawn ornament, but it has been unseized, so it can turn freely now. on plus side, i've heard a similar motor with a glasspack when my uncle took it home and it was probably the meanest street motor i've heard.Cons it doesnt come with a tranny and i'd have to get an adapter.oh and that it's not the awesome Hornet 308. Chevy Stovebolt-my wife's uncle owns a sweet 50's Chevy (sorry, i've forgotten the exact year but its pre 55), he bought it really nice but found the chassis was rusted out. built up another chassis and now the stovebolt and the stick have no home. im already getting the spindles off it for the dropped i-beam axle. Pros: i can get it for less than getting just a used motor from the boneyard cons:it was burning oil, stick is slipping, so both would probably need a rebuild and i think he sold the fenton dual carb setup, so i would need to get intake and such. now those are the motors i have access to but we've spoke about using a MoPar Slant Six, Jeep 6 (most preferrable cuz the father unit has ton of experience with AMCs), the ford 6s, and the chevy 6s. i've even dreamed of the Olds 403 cuz there's piles of trans am/firebird out here.in the end, we're trying to get something that's not a SBC, something that will be durable, not cost a billion to fix up (though there's no time line or budget, it would just slow down the build if its expensive), and something thats doable without making a custom transmission adapter. any ideas?
Why not a 4? You have a wide variety of choices, from A bangers to 2.3 Pinto to Chevy II to the modern engines like the Zetec and Ecotec?
Mac: the Zetec and the Ecotec are out because i'd probably need to custom make an adapter (unless you kno some ppl or can link me). i got a Zetec in my Focus and i'd go that route if an adapter was made. I had mitsubishi 2.0 4banger i was holding on for a while but i gave up when i found i'd have to locate the trans out of an old D50 pickup (around here they've probably been crushed), but its gone now. Garvin:if it wasnt hard to find and expensive to repair, possibly. Jason: its been discussed. and you are right, since it was a midget motor there's tons of hopup parts
It is easy to find manual transmissions to go behind them(iron dukes).. Put it in with a couple sidedraft carbs and you would be set.... Jason.
i almost dragged a GMC sport truck home that had a four banger (not sure if it was a Iron Duke...might have been the isuzu). any chance the iron duke could have a TBI?
again, there's the whole possibly needing an adapter. the only Quad 4 i've seen in a rear wheel car was a 27 T with a T5 and if i remember right, he needed to custom make an adapter. but u are right, the quad 4 is really cool, looks like an offy:
i found a site with adapters for the Ecotec, Quad 4, and the Zetec , but still, 500 bucks for an adapter, trying to keep it cheap as possible to keep the project running smoothly...but its possibility
That means you can use a 1800cc Miata engine and the 6 speed. Looks cool with side drafts too. OTOH they are dead reliable, cheap and good for 200k+ miles.
I would vote for a 225 slant six with 3 side draft webers (40 DCOE's) and a home-growd set of zoomies, coupled with a 904 torqueflite......I saw a T-bucket in Rod and Custom with the set up and it looked cool and original. I have a '65 plymouth with the same combination and it's bullet proof.
i've heard that the cranks were rather weak on the early motors,even on stock motors. i have a friend who is way into drifting and he's gone through a 240SX and a AE86 that he junked, he's been told if he does another junker, i'm towing it to my house! my dad and my mom both had Dusters with them and u're right, they're bulletproof. plus Clifford makes intakes and cams for em. i've thought of zoomies, but im thinking more of a lake pipe, i might mock both up and make a poll on here once i get a motor.
Here is some great info on the 2.0 and 2.3 ford four cyl. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=146592
i'm looking through it now. i almost ran a 2.3, friend of mine had one in his 88 mustang, almost got it for 120 but there was some problems getting it (long story). good idea, i almost forgot about them.
i've thought about it, there's a pile of Mustangs, and Crown Vics cluttering up the junkyards, i'm going to be running a reversed corvair steering box and draglink steering, i wonder if the oilpan would interfer and would have to switch it out. more of a matter of finding one for the right price and such if all that works out.
If you can come up with an engine that runs on discarded cigarette butts the world will beat a path to your door. Has anyone mentioned the MoPar slant six? Has some nice performance features and eye appeal especially in a hoodless car.
I'm going with a Buick V6, the one pictured is just a 2 barrel, picked another one up the other day that's a Turbo.
hahahaha true. yes, the Slant has been mentioned in the beginning by me, i bet they might even match up to a A518 OD.
Chebby Vortec 4.2 inline 6. All aluminum, 260 to 290 HP stock. Bodacious, generally overlooked mill that can be had used in good shape for $600 or so.
HUDSON POWER! there is still a lot you can do with that 232 block. go to the hudson forum and make some searches to find what you can get done with it. http://www.classiccar.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=13
i knew at least one of the people here would be up for it! i dunno though, i haven't seen the 6 (but as i said, i've heard the other 6 when the uncle brought it home)first hand but i kno that its going to require a bit of work. Kanter still makes some engine parts for it....
what hot rod era are you building to? - I think performance 4 bangers are cool - V8 flathead. - 331/365/390 Caddy -scott noteboom
ill toss up a couple more links for you Dale Cooper makes all you would ever need to rebuild your engine and people prefer his stuff to kanter's. www.hudsonmotorcarco.com randy and russ maas, father and son hudson drag racers www.21stcenturyhudson.net wilcap make a muncie 4 speed adaptor kit.
the latest era (look wise) i'd say is 60's, i want it to look a bit traditional, hence the plan for dropped i-beam front axle. if my scanner wasnt acting up, i'd post some pics of the drawings i have of the look i'm going for. performance 4 banger would be cool, as would the cads, and the flathead is a neat motor, but as i said before, i'm trying to keep it a bit low on the ol' price and being in the rust belt, the cads that probably had those motors are probably scrapped or turned to dust. but a 4 is a interesting idea i hadnt thought of lately, so i may take yours and the others advice on it.
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