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Engines that wont die.

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by iwanaflattie, Nov 29, 2011.

  1. Deuces
    Joined: Nov 3, 2009
    Posts: 25,897

    Deuces

    ........ And then he beeline's it to the basement till I'm done singin'.... :(
     
  2. Triggerman
    Joined: Nov 18, 2006
    Posts: 578

    Triggerman
    Member
    from NorCal

    Okay, so in the seventies my Dad bought a boat with a sour engine. He goes to the wrecking yard to buy a replacement. The yard worker fires up a car, revs the engine to the moon and pronounces, "yep, this is a good one." So Pops buys this 327, has his gas station owning buddy install it and.......does nothing further. So said boat sat on the trailer at our country property for a couple decades. The only water it ever saw was rain. Dad decides he's not going to do anything with it and gives it to me. I proceed to tear off the heads because the engine is seized. I pound on the pistons with a 2x4 and BFH until the pistons move. I get the short block turning over nicely and oil everything down and then I......yep, do nothing. Okay, so mebbe 5,7,10 years later I am conspiring with 56NoBrakes' son about getting the '56 Corvette running. I tell his son that I have this 327 but it needs to be torn apart. Picture this, it's been sitting outside with no heads, all those years, with little more than a crappy engine cover over it. So I yank the engine, beat the pistons out with more 2x4 and BFH, take out the crank, oil pump, mouse nests, etc and proceed to poor man rebuild it. There was so much rust in the bores that even after honing the cylinders there are pits in the walls. WTF, I'm going for it. New cast iron rings on the original pistons, same bearings, oil pump, cam, lifters, whatever, later and I plop it back in the boat with '74 heads. Lo and behold, the bitch starts up. Un-fucking-believeable. I pull it from the boat and get it into the Corvette. 56NoBrakes drives it for ten years with a bigger cam and Offy cross ram. Understand, it had 90 psi of compression, in the boat, and only 30 psi of oil pressure and he never sparred the whip on that engine. When I lost possession of the 327 in my avatar car, and 56NoBrakes got a fresh engine, we swapped. That ol' junkyard/boat/country rebuild 327 is still in my '61 vette and starts every time. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

    PS, it's no wonder we love and collect 327's. No better SBC did GM ever make.
     
  3. Cutlassboy68
    Joined: Dec 3, 2011
    Posts: 593

    Cutlassboy68
    BANNED
    from Boone, Nc

    nice 4 door... sorry i just gotta laugh at that one. I got the car for 600 bucks, and put my motor in it. It was awesome, it was a beast (nailing 2 deer going 65 and only denting the grille), and it would haul ass, but it was far from "nice" i think that picture was taken pre fire, car is in niagra new york now.

    O thought i would throw in here just for the character of the car, every few weeks before xmas i would find a dead xmas tree from year before, put lots of pretty lights on it, strap it to the roof and go where ever i needed. Never have had anything beter in snow than she was, it was sooo long... RIP Hoopty...
     
  4. holy shit that was pre-fire???hahaa I love 4 doors...yours sounds like my kind
     
  5. I sung to some pussys but I gotten more than a meaow....half of the time
     
  6. mixedupamx
    Joined: Dec 2, 2006
    Posts: 513

    mixedupamx
    Member

    lighten up francis!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  7. I tried to keep this thread HAMB friendly,,,this is the hamb after all right???
    But I learned that to keep a thread alive you have to think of it as a marriage:
    The secret to a successful marriage is to keep a "f@ck it" attitude.
    More kids????fuck it bring them all in
    The Inlaws want to stay for a couple of months??? fuck it bring them all in
    Your gonna buy a 1000 dollar purse???? fuck it buy it....
    It is the same on the HAMB:
    You want to have an interesting thread? fuck it,lets talk OT's
    You want to talk about engines??fuck it,bring em all in,,,hondas,toyotas,vw etc:D:D

    Just gotta love people who love to break the rules:rolleyes:
     
  8. Cutlassboy68
    Joined: Dec 3, 2011
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    Cutlassboy68
    BANNED
    from Boone, Nc

    well if anythings open.... I use to have this weedeater... I ran out of gas and poured some of my everclear in there... I swear it gained another cylinder... or i lost one from giving me some too...
     
  9. priceless....this is like a gay bar---everything goes.....so :eek:I heard
     
  10. Cutlassboy68
    Joined: Dec 3, 2011
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    Cutlassboy68
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    from Boone, Nc

    Ya i do body work, and i would get some down time and just start grinding things, like the fender... or i would mix up to much paint and start painting parts of it (rear quarter and the hood) if you look close you can see where i hit the deer, driver side grlle, i never straightened it

     
  11. modeleh
    Joined: Oct 29, 2009
    Posts: 380

    modeleh
    Member

    Nobody has mentioned Internationals yet, but the cornbinder 345 was one tough bastard. I did the brick on the gas pedal thing with one I had in a Travelall, and it screamed for so long we got tired of listening to the poor thing, so the air cleaner came off, and the wingnut was thrown down the carb. It slowed it down some, but it took a steady stream of junk down the carb to finally jam enough valves open to kill it.

    I also witnessed a Buick 350 run with no oilpan and do several 30 minute burnout sessions before the carb was fed with junk to put it out of it's misery.
    Also had good times with a Rocket 350 and also a Chev 350 that we got the exhaust manifolds glowing red hot enough to catch a plug wire on fire.

    I've never had the heart to treat a Ford that bad, but I imagine it would impress me the same. It's amazing how much torture some machinery can take.
     
  12. Some one mentioned an international earlier....
    any way great post modeleh!
    A fb buddy said he was worried about a "locktite" plastic cap going down the intake on his just rebuilt ??290?? and I told him it would prolly melt.And you guys threw a wingnut down the carb and it didnt die????
    nice
     
  13. 56nobrakes
    Joined: Aug 9, 2005
    Posts: 38

    56nobrakes
    Member

    Ok,so it wasn't puttin out any more power after 6 to 7 grand but it was worth a try. That is a true story on the 327 and after i ran it with the crossram now triggerman is running with mech. fuel inj.
     
  14. Dawai
    Joined: Oct 1, 2007
    Posts: 263

    Dawai
    Member
    from North Ga.

    When I was young, I'd build a motor. Then hunt a body. I got this 71 350 4 bolt main engine, on it's second complete build. Now in the "TWELFTH" Body, not ran in there yet. THE 57 GMC 100 I am piecing together. I've had this one a few years now. First time I built it, I was dollying it down a incline to the car I was putting it into, I lost it, it went end over end tearing both valve covers off and packing mud between the valve springs. It pitched me ass over tea-kettle cause I would not let go of the hand truck I had it strapped to. (whipped my ass)

    It went 160 in a 64 El Camino/T5 (wadded the belts in 3 Ta Radials), got me laid off from a tech job after It was hit or pass the plant managers viper (in a Monza Spyder) During the last build I had the rods shot peened and magnafluxed, they gave me back 4 #2 rods.. they stole the good ones at the machine shop. I put Scat rods back in with badger pistons.
    Now, it has 69 Model 2.02 heads, going to put the Snowflake intake on it. (just sittin there)
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1484058&d=1321329266 It was in my Wrecker last time, 882 heads and a weiland intake, Demon carb. It'd smoke the duallys, then I'd get to replace the Ujoint where it comes out of the 4speed granny. Swapped the wrecker off, kept the engine. For some crazy reason this engine breaks the centers out of flywheels when ran with a auto????

    Never had one like this one. I gave my SPARE industrial engine from a 78 Chevy Bus to a buddy, it too was a replacement 4 bolt block and had X-rods.

    BEST one before that, a 65 327 300hp.. was not "that" powerful, but could not be hurt. I got one that came out of a 5 ton truck under the bench. Not for sale. I plan on putting a Vortec top end, EFI and all on the 65 forged Lower, We'll see how that works out.

    I had a crazy Slant six in a 63 Lancer.. ignition timing adjusted in three places on that motor. It only got 500 miles to a quart of oil, but it'd run sideways at 35 in the rain. (perhaps all that oil on the tires?? ) Someone told me long ago, it was a crappy V12 design they cut down into a slant six?? IS that true??
     
  15. Deuces
    Joined: Nov 3, 2009
    Posts: 25,897

    Deuces

    That's a Z/28 aluminum high rise intake.. The heads look like the #186 castings with screw in studs and guide plates.. I had 2 sets of those at one time..
     
  16. paintman27
    Joined: Apr 23, 2011
    Posts: 287

    paintman27
    Member
    from new jersey

    Ok guys this is my story....................I bought this 46 chevy pickup about a year ago (from someone who claimed he was a resto speialist),with the intention of driving it for a year and then doing a frame off resto. I pretty much just used the truck for short runs for coffee or to the hardware store. No more than 5 miles each way.However I did take it about 10 miles each way once for a car show.

    Well the truck seemed to run really well, and never had any trouble with it. However after poking around under the hood I had seen a few that just didn't make me feel good confident, you guys know loose bolts wobbly brackets small oil leaks etc.

    So I decided to begin the resto early and started taking the engine out. Heres what I found

    first pic shows the Hurst style motor mount. If you look closely you'll see the upper left bolt missing. the lower left bolt was tight and seemed fine. the two right side bolts appeared to be just loose but after further review they where both broken off inside the block. So basically the motor was held in by one tight front bolt and the two trans bolts that I found to be only hand tight.

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    After getting the motor out I pulled the plugs. here is what I found I think the pics will speak for themselves
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  17. Dawai your 57 gmc was actually why I started this thread,,,I wandering when you gona tell us your story
     
  18. holy crap paint man thats horrible
     
  19. flatheadz-forever
    Joined: Jun 16, 2011
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    flatheadz-forever
    Member
    from new jersey

    model a 4 bangers will not die
     
  20. Dawai
    Joined: Oct 1, 2007
    Posts: 263

    Dawai
    Member
    from North Ga.

    Deuces, that is the "good parts" from the large journal 327 in the corner. The 882 heads are sitting next to it now. That's a TRW balanced 327 in a 4 bolt 60 over block.. Never heard it run, looks fine inside.

    I've hid that 350 engine in the closets of a few rental houses. It's been on a hand truck as much as in a car I think. I am not real sure of the year I bought that thing for $200? I figured one day I got near four grand in it now in machine shop work and wore out parts.

    My buddy Porky, My marriage to my second wife was in it's death throws, She had been staying out all night "somewheres" and Porky and I was drinking and trying to figure out where to dump her body when she finally came home. I had been building her a car from a Cutlass diesel (crappy GM engine) with very low miles.. "that 350" was in it. She came home that eve, Porky and I was into the second case of beer. She said.. " I wish you'd finish my car so I can leave". I looked at Porky, asked "what are you doing tomorrow?" He said, I guess I'm helping you get that car running.

    I had a 59 sedan delivery that had a smoky old 2 barrel something smallblock motor in it, when she got in that eve the 350 was sitting in the 59, the smoky motor was sitting in that cutlass idling pretty as you please. She loaded her clothes and left. She's still a "beautiful high maintenance bitch". I think that woman is on husband 7 or 8 now.

    I got a good 4th wife, she lets me have my toys, my pitt bulldogs, my Harleys.. and Porky still comes around. Nothing is as faithful as a true friend, a pitt bulldog and I am starting to believe in that 350. Maybe it's time for the rods to hit the pavement??? I sure hope not.

    Every good 70s 4 bolt main 350 has a casting number on the bellhousing flange last numbers 000010. They are getting rare. Not sure what that means. High nickel??
     
  21. darkk
    Joined: Sep 2, 2010
    Posts: 456

    darkk
    Member

    We had an O/T 59 volvo P544 (looked like a mini 46 ford sedan) that we passed around to different family members that needed a car. I had it 389,000 miles on it when I sold it. The new owner had it for years after that...
     
  22. devilleish
    Joined: Jan 15, 2007
    Posts: 254

    devilleish
    Member

    YO
    Prolong did one in the mid 90s with an LA318 too, dumping sand in it then pulling the pan after running it & scraping the mud out then running it with no pan. I was 19 and beating the shit out of a hot little 318 in a 74 Dart at the time, and most of my friends had LA powered Mopars too, so I knew better. One of those degenerates put his '67 Dart's Slant Six together with a 3/8 impact gun and drove it like a madman for years after.
    Had a couple 351W in sedans I couldn't kill, a bulletproof '65 215 Pontiac with the Buick ST300 (it's NOT an aircooled PG like everyone thinks), an AMC 360 in my semi-OT tow vehicle Grand Wagoneer that I treat like dogshit every chance I get (haven't changed the oil in 2 years and it gets used HARD in winter)...
     
  23. bulletproof1
    Joined: Feb 23, 2004
    Posts: 2,079

    bulletproof1
    Member
    from tulsa okla

    i had a 84 cj7 with a 258 inline 6...i beat that thing like a rented mule.... you had to change the oil every 3500 miles.if not the presure would start to drop..... i got busy and forgot to change it,,, went on a road trip and 100 miles from home the pressure started dropping, we where in the sticks and no where to get oil ..i kept on trucking... it started knocking alittle..we stopped in a small town walmart,,,changed the oil on the side of the road... went about 30 miles and it started knocking again .then harder ,then even harder... now its knocking so hard the shifter is beating the floorboard out of shape.. 3rd gear wide open for about 10 miles....it wouldnt blow.....we loaded it on a friends trailer.i drove his jeep into town...next day it started right up..knocked to beat hell but drove it around the block a few times.... it was way too loud to drive at this point...sounds like a sledge hammer hitting a traintrack......i pulled it and dropped in a injected sbc..
     
  24. J Twitero
    Joined: Apr 15, 2011
    Posts: 105

    J Twitero
    Member
    from Minnesota

    So long as we're including OT engines, I had a '91 S-10 with the 4.3 in it. Was heading to visit mom for the weekend (180 miles one way) and about 15 miles from mom's place I slow for a stop sign and the check gauges light comes on, look down and notice I have virtually no oil pressure. Rolled to the stop, and down to zero with motor knocking, figured it's already done, its either walk from here or walk less when it finally dies. Was down on power but made it to mom's place, shut it off, asked step-dad if I could borrow his blazer the next day (saturday) to start looking for something to trade it on so I could get home. He wanted to hear it, so we went outside and it fired right back up, but sounded like it had a blacksmith in the oilpan. Found my 05 Sierra the next day and after the paperwork was signed I drove the s-10 to the dealer to let them dump it on the auction block.

    I have had good luck so far with the lil datsun I picked up at the impound auction also. Had to replace plugs in it every year when it got cold until I finally ponied up for a good cap-rotor-coil for it instead of the cheap crap the PO had in it. Was on the way home from work and it was running good, then started missing and farting and no power when I was trying to pull out at a light, figured it was plugs again, but kept an eagle eye on the temp gauge etc. the rest of the way and nothing out of the ordinary. Got home, swapped the plugs out for the ones I had bought but hadnt put in because it had been dark when I got home the days before. Hit the key and just as it fires BANG with a big cloud of white smoke out the tailpipe and the obvious sweet smell. Teardown confirmed the headgasket had gone, but that damn thing got me 10 miles home running on 2 cylinders. Ran a straight edge across the head and the block to confirm they were straight, tossed a gasket set at it, and still driving it a year later, $100 car that doesnt owe me a dime. ;)
     
  25. Deuces
    Joined: Nov 3, 2009
    Posts: 25,897

    Deuces

    How about an ol' Maytag????... :rolleyes:
    Takes a lickin' and keeps on tickin'... :)
     
  26. J Twitero
    Joined: Apr 15, 2011
    Posts: 105

    J Twitero
    Member
    from Minnesota

    My dad has the one lunger from the ole washing machine that my grandma used, still runs like a champ! I've got a 2 cylinder, but need a coil for it.
     
  27. Deuces
    Joined: Nov 3, 2009
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    Deuces

    Let's see????....... I got 2 hours sleep last week friday... :eek::eek::eek:
     
  28. Deuces
    Joined: Nov 3, 2009
    Posts: 25,897

    Deuces

    Your right!....
    I'm not a quiter.. Just ask my wife! ;):D
     
  29. Salty
    Joined: Jul 24, 2006
    Posts: 2,258

    Salty
    Member
    from Florida

    I had a stock 1950 Chevy with a 216 in it that I drove as a daily for about 2 years while I collected parts to clip it and put a V8 in it....one day while taking off from the light about 10 miles from the house as I let off the clutch a loud resounding BOOM! with corresponding death rattle/knocking/clattering and all sorts of noise erupted from under the hood.

    I hopped outta the car and popped the hood and iinstantly saw a large window in the block that you could put your fist through....all fluids were still working their way outta the block....

    The engine was still running though even though you could see the crank spinnin while looking through the block...I did what every other hot rodder would do. Hop in it and try to break down a little closer to home.

    Darn car got me all the way home....pops was outside as I was going to pull into the nice driveway and he flagged me down and told me to go park in the dirt....by this time the engine was making noises that I had never heard prior....and scince it was LOUD.

    I got it into the side yard and showed pops what went down, the engine was so hot you could see parts of the valves through the exhaust manifold. It was so hot you couldnt get close to it without getting burned.

    we propped the hood up, shut it down and walked away for the night with the plan of getting it stripped and pulled for the conversion the next day.

    The next day rolled around and pops was goign to pull the Chevy into the garage with his work truck. on a whim I hit the key and the engine was seized (rightfully so)

    As he was pulling me around the house I popped the clutch, engine broke loose and it fired....had no power, sounded like death....but it ran....all 5 cylinders....this was in 95' wish I had pics of the carnage.
     
  30. The 289 in my 65 mustang I tried to blow it up so I could build something more powerfull to replace it ,ran it wide open for three and 1/2 miles on s texas highway in the 70's and never managed to kill it. I totaled the car and sold the engine and trany its around possum kingdom lake in a pu truck now
     

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