ETHANOL FREE STATIONS- post your location here

The biggest problem I have with ethanol is it separates from the gas when it is in storage a while. Put some in a jar and let is sit for about 40 days and you will see what I am talking about. It will go to the bottom and be thick and dark like syrup. The mechanic at the local air cooled engine shop showed me some he had in a gl*** jar. He said if you are going to let anything sit for more than a month you better drain all the gas out. I was out of town working for the winter and have been back since the first of May. I have spent the last month working on the fuel systems of everything I had sitting up over the winter. Had to drain and flush the tanks and rebuild the carburetors on my '53 F-100, my '52 Case tractor and both my riding mowers. This is not a problem on something you drive everyday but if you are going to store a vehicle with ethanol in the tank beware.
V/8

 

My lawnmowers and gas cans sit all year long with at least an E10 mix in them and fire up in the spring right off the bat. You may be experiencing issues IF you have not had alky in the system previously. It has a tendancy to clean out the sytem of all varnish and gum. Once over that initial hurdle you should be fine.

 

About 10 miles west of Okeechobee, FL on Hwy 70 is a station that sells boat fuel and has a non-ethanol sign. (not on the list)

 

Done, both push mower and riding.

Done.

Not a '68 BMW, but a couple old Triumphs for customers, a couple Guzzis, and a Ducati.

The jetting difference with 10-15% ethanol isn't anywhere near that extreme.

It's because corn is one of the least efficient ways to make ethanol, should be switch gr*** or sugar cane. Or hell at this point just about any organic material with the right enzymes.

Yep, seems we get to do this every couple months.

 

The small engine mechanic that had the bottle of ethanol that separated had put fresh gas in the jar, not gas out of an old tank. Ethanol does separate when stored. It is a huge problem for the boating industry. There are articles all over the web that substantiate this. The following quote is part of an article found here:
http://www.greenhulk.net/forums/sho...or-Marine-use-how-to-buy-non-Ethanol-gasoline

"If moisture does get absorbed into Ethanol gasoline, the Ethanol becomes less soluble in the gasoline, and will settle out at the bottom of the tank. Not only is this Ethanol+water combination not combustible in the engine, the remaining gasoline sitting above this stuff in the tank has 3-4 octane LESS than it did before the moisture caused the Ethanol to drop out. So the remaining gasoline is also garbage, with an octane (for regular) of maybe 83-84."

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Just to set the record straight, the SOLE purpose of this thread, JUST like the ***le reads is for "Loations of Ethanol Free Gasoline", nothing more or less. Our friend racer32, came through with flying colors with a link that will help many, many HAMBers. Political opinions aside, I have achieved exactly what my good intentions were, locations of ethanol free gasoline stations for those members who wish to not use such a product. Thanks to all that contributed. The end.

 

Thanks Rick, again, exactly the only reason for this thread. TR

 

This and the fact that these fuels are CORROSIVE are no more up to be disputed by a senior member of this forum, any more than the 3 Laws of Motion by Sir Isaac Newton. Enough allready with this *** for tat ignorant discussion.

 

Hi guys i am not a good typer and spell check does not work with this sight
i had a cl*** from BG Products and it was very informative
the 10% is going out 15% is already being put togeather fuel starts going bad in 2 weaks
Also go to www.fueltesters.com
BG has a new stabelizer and water molicule resizer so it will p*** through the systom better
eythanol is corosive and collects water from the air so if you have a vented systom try to put a shutoff on it especialy boats
i have found that Amsoil Full Synthetic outboard oil stayes mixed in fuel i put 1 oz per 5 gallons of gas and my gas millage is higher (they Do Not put top end lube in the fuel any more) this has been removed
if you let anything set you should put stabelizer in it (Marine Stable The Blue) if you can not find the new BG product (fuel stabelizer has been removed also) from the blender
I had to go up 2 jet sizes and more advance in timming in my TT (aviator pis)
the oil also helps keep the rubber from cracking Or dry rotting fuel pumps accelerator pumps ect

ok on new vehicles are loosing in tank fuel pumps due to lack of lube BG Cl*** through Napa Auto Parts
the E85 cars are having corosion problems and Plastic fuel lines are going bad

 

just a fue stations in pensacola Fl have E free g*** to fare from me

i am just learning how to deal with this STOUGH i drive all over
you can go up on compression with this e10 the octain is still the same as labled but it kinda runs cooler combustion

 

What I notice is those of us that have been running 10% for over 25 years really see no issue. Real world experience from someone w/o an agenda. Also, do a search, lots of great info on the HAMB

 

Exactly. This chicken little **** cracks me up. I worked at my brother in laws DX in Iowa in the early 1980s and we had it in the pumps then. E10 was called "gasohol" then. We ran it in everything from 2 cylinder Wisconsin stationary engines, 63 Fairlane with a 289, 10.5 compression and too much cam, 76 Ford F-250, 62 Olds, etc. with no issues, other than changing the fuel filter a couple times as a precautionary measure and replacing some rotted rubber lines that needed to go anyway.

 

Two in Vermont.
West Addison General Store
RT 17 West
West Addison, VT
(They have treated regular as well as 91 octane with no ethanol)

An independent gas station across from the Gulf station
RT 22A
Vergennes, VT

 

99 Ford F150 5.4V8

same trip, spent about 90% on the cruise control.

27 cents per mile on E10, 12.54mpg
23 cents per mile on real gasoline, 15.61mpg

Anyone care to tell me how to tune it to get the same mileage on e10? Maybe tune it to make the cents per mile break even? Until the smug tuners show me the way, I will continue to save 4 cents per mile, and go much further with each tankful despite the cost difference.

 

Guess the facts prevail. Gasoline has more energy than ethanol, and therefore gas/ethanol blends. You must burn more blend to get the same energy of real fuel.

There is no tuning around it, and there is no sense comparing a 1/4 mile dragster burning 2 gallons of alky to a daily driver burning 10% on a 20 mile commute.