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Hot Rods Ethanol Shield?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by JD Miller, Sep 26, 2023.

  1. JD Miller
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    I have some sta-bil I bought last year , for my camping generator. Ill check the label if it says "ethanol protector"
     
  2. Tickety Boo
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    It would be interesting to see the inside a secondary bowel in a vacuum secondary Holley type carburetor after using 10 percent ethanol mix for a few years.
    Unless it's a drag car or has a young driver rotating fresh fuel in the secondary's, it will be contaminated.
     
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  3. squirrel
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    what, you don't get the secondaries open every time you drive? Shame on you!
     
  4. 5window
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    My new power washer came with this stuff and I used it but I can get ethanol free gas here which solves the issue.
     
  5. Tickety Boo
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    Jim I might be guilty :oops:

    Had some fun experimenting when E-85 was $1.50 gal about 10 years ago, changed the jetting and the alcohol accelerator pump in a spare 3310 vacuum secondary Holley 750, then bolted it on the Avtar 64.
    The engine is a 0 decked flat top piston 350 with about a 10 to 1 compression ratio with 64cc cast iron vortec heads.
    Ran one full summer with about a 50/50 mix of 87 octane E-10 / E-85, after tuning the car ran about the same as the more expensive non-ethanol 91.
    End of summer changed back to run non-ethanol 91 in a couple of tanks before winter storage, inspecting the fuel bowls both primary and secondary jets looked like they were sandblasted :eek: bowls lost some of the plating inside with secondary parts worse.
    Didn't mess with it again as the ethanol prices increased and it wasn't worth the trouble :rolleyes:

    Note: The pressure regulator in the 2-year-old mechanical fuel pump failed the next summer :mad:
     
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  6. Lloyd's paint & glass
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    Ask and you shall recieve Screenshot_20230927-210353_Samsung Internet.jpg
     
  7. trevorsworth
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    Ethanol was for sure ****ing up the leather accelerator pumps in the 1 barrel Carters I was running on my slant 6. After switching to ethanol free fuel the third or fourth time I rebuilt the same carb, the accelerator pump lasted until I replaced the carb with a modern ethanol-safe carb. I would only be worried about ethanol at this stage if I was going to leave the car to sit for months... which I am not 'cause I drive my old **** rain or shine.

    I currently run ethanol gas in my Model A without any worries, but may switch when I replace the simple updraft carb with these Chevy 235 carbs... the accelerator pumps in those are made of rubber that I am not sure is eth-friendly.
     
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  8. Lloyd's paint & glass
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    Actually that picture is misleading. That came from sitting for about 4 months
     
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  9. Tickety Boo
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    Looks like running moth balls to raise the octane :D
     
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  10. Lloyd's paint & glass
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    Ain't that crazy looking? It was mushy. I had my front bowl off yesterday and it was clean. I figured it'd be nasty.
     
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  11. Tickety Boo
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    How about a picture of inside the rear bowl for Jim :p post #33
     
  12. The Stabil product with the ethanol coverage is called Stabil 360. I bought it for Little Truckdoctor’s 110 Polaris, but now I use it in everything. So far, so good (fingers crossed).
     
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  13. Illustrious Hector
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    Up here it's best to run small engines out of fuel before winter storage. M/C same deal, supply valve off, run till empty, and Sea-Foam in the tank. My pal does small eng. repairs and 85 % of his work is fuel left over winter. Even long periods of inactivity in summer will begin formation of "crusties".
     
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