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  1. David Gersic
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  2. bobss396
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    That's what SHE said...
     
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  3. That's f'd up, lay it all out and do one wire at a time, not difficult, especially if I can do it!!
    wiring.jpg
     
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  4. K13
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    Looks like a factory loom adapted to the car and as mentioned that is exactly what they look like when unwrapped.
     
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  5. BamaMav
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    Went and looked at a cheap VW back in my bug days. Found out why it was cheap, they couldn't get it to fire, no juice at the points. Started poking around, an "electrician" had rewired it...........every hot wire was red! Nothing marked, just a bundle of red wires going everywhere. Must have bought the only color they had. I p***ed on it.
     
  6. captainjunk#2
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    simple he just really loved ramen noodles and wanted his wiring harness to match a big pile of noodles woven into a m*** , or he wanted to perform an experiment to see how much patience the next person had in dealing with any electrical issues in the vehicle
     
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  7. Montana1
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    The directions said something like this... :confused: I hate wiring. :mad::rolleyes::D

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  8. Rocky
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    I enjoy fixing messes like that. Some guys like cross-word puzzles. I like wiring.
     
  9. Reminds me of my 56 buick station wagon. Man I would be drinking real early with that mess. LOL. Bruce.
     
  10. The37Kid
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    I won't live long enough to wire any of my cars, but it always amazes me that a simple hot rod needs that much wire for two headlights, two tail lights, and signals, did I miss anything? Bob
     
  11. I can tell you the easiest way to do this but it sounds stupid till you do it. Once you do it or see it done you'll never go back.

    You need a 3/8 climbers rope, knife, tape, bread bag closers, zip ties and a marker.
    Cut sections of rope long enough to represent the sections of harness plus a few feet.
    From panel to front lights
    From panel to engine.
    From panel to rear lights
    From panel to cabin accessories

    Now run the ropes as nice and neat as you want where you want. Try different things as many times as you want and get it as perfect as you want.
    Ring Tape the ropes together, ring tape the break outs and branches. Label those with the bread bag closers.

    Take the ropes that now are a mock up of your harnes over to a table.
    Bring the wiring kit over to the table and make the kit match the ropes. Tape it the same, mark it the same, make the harness just like the ropes. It's easier if you have a table surface that you can screw some loops to be extra hands

    Take the harnes over to the car and install it just as perfect as the ropes were.
    Now the main messy stuff or Macro part of the harness is figured and in place. All that's left is the micro part of wiring and terminating the connection in a neat and orderly way. That happens one wire at a time
     
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  12. Stu D Baker
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    Well. you know,.... if it was easy, anybody could do it.
     
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  13. Ralphies54
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    Gary, an insult to electricians everywhere!!
     
  14. HOTRODPRIMER
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    Looks like they used a professional. HRP

    [​IMG]
     
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  15. Larry T
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    Kinda hard to lump any profession into one pile. :D

    OCD.jpg
     
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  16. gnichols
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    I just call them like I've seen them, literally, including my recent bathroom remodeling job! Gary
     
  17. 56don
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    Well, if he was an electrician then maybe he didn't want to shorten the wires thinking he would change the impedance of the circuit...:p

    nah, he just didn't care.....
     
  18. The37Kid
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    Rope, nobody ever got hurt with a rope. Bob
     
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  19. AVater
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    I guess he did it because he could?
    When I wired my Avatar I thought it would never end it took me so long. As others said earlier--probably just sick of it by then?
    Or another case of the shoemaker going barefoot?
    Look forward to seeing the resolution Ted!
     
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  20. jcmarz
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  21. tb33anda3rd
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    i used pipe cleaners to organize the wires that i wanted keep together, together. i do like the idea of using rope to design a harness tho and will use try it in the future. DSCF0001.JPG
     
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  22. tb33anda3rd
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    DSCF0003.JPG then i started hooking up the wires, starting at the head lights, then motor and worked my way back to the dash. i then started on the left side of the dash and worked my way to the right.
    i could not get any continuity from the turn signal switch so i took it apart. the terminals were a little dirty so i cleaned them up with scotch brite and put it back together. it tested fine and i was able to label the wires and hook them up. DSCF0002.JPG
     
  23. gene-koning
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    On a lot of the currently available headlight switches, that fiber board is bowed! There is not enough terminal protruding through the fiber board to make contact every time, so you get a hit or miss lighting failure, on one section of the fiber board or another! Attempting to file the board flat doesn't work, at least a few of the contacts are always making the connection, even when off. I got 3 light switches from 3 different parts houses, and all had the same issue. The 4th switch from a 4th parts house worked. This has been in the last 12 months! I felt pretty lucky! Thought I would give you guys the heads up on this. Gene
     
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  24. kaspar
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    Been there, seen that, died a little inside (again).
     
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  25. chevy57dude
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    Kaspar, Sorry about the name of your city!
     
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  26. Bubba1955
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    And to think he used to work for the power company. [​IMG]
     
  27. THAT took some planning.

    Ben
     
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  28. bobss396
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    I made up a 1:1 harness board for my Ford and laid in the fuse panel where I wanted it. Ran the wires out according to how the dash was laid out. It went pretty easily, wound up being around 50 wires plus a few leftover circuits. This is what it looked like before going in.
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  29. I'm not sure what part of the world that is in, but it won't p*** an inspection in the US.
    OCD for sure but not right
     
  30. Katuna
    Joined: Feb 25, 2005
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    from Clovis,Ca.

    Judging by the 120v outlets I'm guessing it's the the good old USA. Looks real purdy but would never p*** muster. What was the point? Look what I can do? Anything above signal voltage has to be in conduit, chief.


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