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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by mink, Jun 3, 2008.

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  1. ELpolacko
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    Judging by his previous posts, I take this as serious. And judging by the responses he has gotten I'm not surprised at the results.
     
  2. Buzznut
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    My shop teacher in high school called it "rat terd" welding...that about sums it up....
     
  3. Unkl Ian
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    Based on what ?:confused::rolleyes:

    The welds,and the design,are highly suspect.
     
  4. brokenspoke
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    Scrap metal is $9.00 a hunnerd....I know what I would do with it.
     
  5. ray
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    i bet the punchline is that this thing has been on the road for years, to prove us wrong that*****ty welds really will work. it looks too dirty to have been just done.
     
  6. zapp69
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    Im with you. At least I hope its*****.

    If its serious take the advice of POOK above at least someone is trying to help
     
  7. ange 33
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    i once had a old hot rodder tell me that back in the day ( 50`s) he rememberd that**** was safe and hot rods were dangerous. i geuss i just found my time machine. look out ladies!
     
  8. That's what she said. Boom!
     
  9. Unkl Ian
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    Just because people "get away with" something,
    doesn't mean it is safe to do the same thing.

    Or as some people say: "The Lord protects Fools and Drunks."
     
  10. fab32
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    This thread can be closed now and save Ryan a bunch of bandwidth. It's ALL been said (multiple times) and if he doesn't take heed and have someone with WELDING EXPERIENCE redo this abortion then the only salvation will be if he looses interest and the project "dies on the vine". With scrap prices so high he at least has a viable option to continuing with this death trap.

    Frank
     
  11. JimA
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    She lied! It was a wrinkle!
     
  12. stude_trucks
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    You are going to hurt/kill yourself with that welding job and maybe somebody else, but hopefully not. This is the kind of***** that gives us a bad rep. and the kind of stuff that will make people want to pass laws against people modifying their own cars. Secondly, I would be embarrassed to show anyone that if I had welded it. Come on, you know what a good weld looks like and you know that is not a good welding job. Not even close and you can't be serious with this. But if you are, stop what you are doing and get that fixed by someone who knows what they are doing before it causes some serious harm. If someone gets hurt because of that, somebody is going to be in pretty big trouble. Personally, my welding*****s too, but not quite that bad. I had the frame stretched on my truck and I had someone who knew what they were doing do it. That is just common sense. Don't be an idiot.
     
  13. Looks good man, do a wheelie. At least it's cooler than that****gy little car in the background.
     
  14. OMG!!!

    You cant seriously be looking to build this into anything other than a pile of scrap!
    Someone IS going to die very soon with fabrication like that. There just isnt enough space here to say all the things thats wrong.....

    Damn makes me want to get on a plane and fly over the pond and shake some sense into you! (Oh and show you how its supposed to be done!)

    Angle Iron is for fences, not rods! Let alone pidgeon*****e welding.
    Sermon over.....
     
  15. 1950ChevySuburban
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    Keep that mess out of Arizona and away from my kids.
     
  16. el Scotto
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    Hahahahaha!!!!
     
  17. ykp53
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    okay, im parinoid now. i have used the same type of welder and angle iron on my DD. i relocated the battery to the outside of the frame so i could install a spare. i have 2 saftey cable's on the setup should i be worried? it can hold my 155 lbs.

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  18. Dan10
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    If your battery falls off, your not likely to kill yourself or someone else. The frame on the otherhand well I think we know.
     
  19. sko_ford
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    i will concur but i would work on the welding. probably thurn up the heat and slow down the wire. you should get a nicer bead and beter penatration
     
  20. Willy301
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    The welds don't look like they will support the battery for long either, but then again it is alot less weight bearing than the frame job. I have used the flux core welding on projects before and I got reasonable results for what I was building. I also used it to TACK the frame together for the fire truck project. I then used a stick welder to obtain penetration and structural strength. I upgraded my machine to use shielding gas, and then upgraded the machine to a much larger welder. you really need to see what a good weld looks like before you call your project satifactory, cause it is Scary! I will say that I believe your frame is not garbage, but definitely get a professional welder to at least look at it and make the necessary repairs.
     
  21. Buzznut
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    Rat terds I tell ya...crank that heat up!! Basically, run a test first on a peice of scrap. The welds should look like small dimes layedered one on top of the other center to center. Turn the heat up, if you burn through, turn it down until you stop burning through. Slow down the wire...if you get gaps it's too fast, if you get piles it's too slow (or you're too slow). The act of welding takes fluidity, patience and a steady hand. PRACTICE!...
     
  22. Ralph
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    Mink, PLEASE PM this guy and ask for help. He offered it in another of your threads. Welding and design like you've shown will get somebody killed. If he builds Nostalgia Funny Cars, I bet he can weld! His "HAMB" name is his real name.What a concept!
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  23. ykp53
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    thanks for the replys. i have been working on my welding that was my first attempt, upside down no less. since i was unsure of my abilities thats why i have the two saftey cables.
     
  24. Damn, I thought my welds*****ed! Please take these guys advice, frame AND battery box.
     
  25. The37Kid
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    Please scrap that! I LIVE IN CONNECTICUT and don't want to see it take out anyone. :eek:
     
  26. Halfdozen
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    My advice:
    Sell the Chev and the welder.
    Drive the TR6.
     
  27. TooMany2count
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    OMG :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: PLEASE by all means get someone to weld that correctly. Your not only putting yourself in danger but also everyone that is anywhere near you....joe
     

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  28. raaf
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    a lot of criticism here, not much of it helpful. maybe some advice as to why his welds look like that? also i see that the thread keeps going but mink hasn't come back - wonder why.

    offhand, as mentioned above, looks like flux core - but is it? i've also seen a unit kinda do that with polarity flipped. no one asked what type of wire was used, what type of welder, etc... we all seem to care about road safety - but enough to suggest some tips?

    from what i can see...

    welding aside...that angle iron (bed frame or something i'm guessing) doesn't look structurally up to the task. do a search on chassis builds, chassis repairs, gusseting, etc... the information is incredible here. check the tech archive. frame-related stuff written by "Paul" is well-detailed.

    otherwise...

    1. as mentioned many times above, chassis work should only come after fully TESTED proficiency around your welds. i don't mean certification necessarily...but i mean, at the very least weld test pieces together and test their strength by any means you have. stick them in a vise, bend them back and forth - does the part break, or the weld? your weld should be the strongest part. etc... you say you have penetration, if you had done some test pieces with the same thickness, you could cut it in half and see exactly what penetration looked like.

    2. those welds appears to be simple tacks in succession, tack your work, cool, then follow it with a consistent bead.

    3. clean, clean - yeah - make sure your work is ground to metal.

    4. that spitting does suggest flux core wire. good for worst case scenarios in windy places outdoors. not as good indoors. if you don't have shielding gas, or your unit doesn't support it - time to upgrade.

    5. you mentioned your chassis moved a little. ok, too much heat and no you're probably not gonna get this back the way it was. let your welds cool nicely - move around, don't concentrate too much in place for too long.

    6. ask for help. nothing beats practical experience. an experienced welder can save you hours of learning and may save your life and ours.

    this site will explain much of what i've just said in excellent detail:

    http://www.mig-welding.co.uk/tutorial.htm

    make a cup of coffee and learn a bit about the "why" - i found this old book at a swap meet and a lot of lightbulbs went off:

    http://www.amazon.com/Metals-Weld-Them-T-B-Jefferson/dp/999973846X

    you can find a copy at 2nd hand bookstores everywhere.

    -- raaf
     
  29. This thread is*********. There is no way anyone done that recently, and there is no way you could***** it up that bad even with fluxcore. That looks to be welded with an old**** AC welder or something. Why would anyone in their right mind show some***** like that off? They're*****ing around. So, my advice is***** off, that's not even that funny.
     
  30. EL BOZITO
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    its*********. close it.
     
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