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Customs F-100 Z job

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by F-head, Apr 23, 2015.

  1. F-head
    Joined: Oct 20, 2007
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    F-head
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    hey anybody ever z the front of a 53 to 56 F-100
    done the rear before so dont care about that. wondering if anyone ever did the front
    dont want to hear about some clip job or mustang number 2
     
  2. Many many years back I checked out that idea. As I remember it there were 2 issues that stopped me. The front and rear spring mount's. The firewall end was clear under the toe board and involved the Trans cross member as well as the front cab mounts. Then the front end was involved with the core support cross member and involved radieator. At that time it was more than I could get my head around. Today I would probably look into some much shorter springs and bring all 4 mount points closer together just to minimize the amount of work to do. On that Truck I just ended up getting a dropped axle from More-drop. That worked out really well. That was about 1968 or 69.
    The Wizzard
     
  3. I remember the same problems with the idea on a '54 that I had and my solution was to channel it. I don't recall how I worked around the core support though it was a very long time ago.
     
  4. F-head
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    F-head
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    love to see some pics
    anyone?
     
  5. Xtrom
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    You probably end up having to move your steering box up to correct your steering geometry. This screws up the column inside the cab also as it changes the length, which can be shortened, but also screws up the angle and position at which it comes into the cab and the angle it comes off from the dash. I'd check into a drop axle and/or springs.
     
  6. F-head
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    box goes up with the frame section
    i understand all that, wasn't asking for your opinion
    just wanted to see some pics
     
  7. I was just looking at one of my Trucks thinking about your idea. It looks like if you came up with a 32" long spring you could Z the frame ahead of the rear spring hanger and behind the front hanger and avoid all the cross member issues as well as the core support/ rad issues and drop the truck 5 1/4". Now that might get you into oil pan to Axle problems being your limited to how much you can raise the motor without drive shaft issues. 3 1/2" might be enough to find a sweet spot and not have many problems at all. Now I know that's not pictures but hay, I'm thinking out loud here. Anything is possible if your willing to do what it takes.
    The Wizzard
     
  8. Jalopy Joker
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    if you ask a question here you are going to get some opinions. don't get pissed, just look for answers to your question. I do not have the answer to your question but, have a idea. possibly run a No Limit, cmwtrucks.com, etc, Rack & Pinion Kit for a Straight Axle. might help you do what you want to do without having to deal with a stock steer box, etc.
     
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  9. I'm seein' it well enough but I think in pictures.

    The nice thing about an Effie is the room you have between the hood and the engine, you can get away with a lot of movement if the engine if you stay low rise and don't pancake the hood. The driveshaft angle can be over come but you will have to build a hump for the tranny.
     
  10. Frankie47
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    D-bag.
     
  11. I guess if you Z the back the drive line is a non issue. Just raise the motor and build a trans cover and shaft tunnel.
    The Wizzard
     
  12. F-head
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    the idea is to not have to buy a bunch of expensive stuff
    I like the stock suspension stuff
    just want it lower
    s b c is rear sump so that should help with axle/ pan issues
    chop off the bottom of the rad suppoort
    use a mustang radiator
    drop the front horns back down
    steering geometry i.e. drag link is stock
    full travel suspension
    cut it at about 15degrees and the wheels would go forward in the wheelwell about an inch
    just the front cab mount looks to need mods
    no 400 dollar dropped axle and uphill draglink
     
  13. wheeler.t
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    It sounds like you already know what youre doing, so you better start cutting that poor truck up then. Post lots of pictures
     
  14. gimpyshotrods
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    If you want my opinion...oh wait, you don't, just pictures of what you already decided to do.
     
  15. F-head
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    F-head
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    lotsa old ladies on here now
     
  16. gimpyshotrods
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    Yup, and some chassis engineers, that you don't want to listen to.
     
  17. Let's see some pictures of where your at currently. I'm all about a small budget and would like to see progress. I bought my first F-100 in 1964 and have never been without one since including now.
    The Wizzard
     
  18. seb fontana
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    seb fontana
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    from ct

    We all been here before, best to just ignore as he will disappear like the others before...
     
  19. seb fontana
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    seb fontana
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    from ct

    He been here 8 yrs and made 263 posts so he hasn't contributed much but must have learned alot!!!!!
     
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