Somewhere on here, I read a thread asking how to mount side pipes without clamps showing. I tried searching, but I've got to admit, this new Hamb stuff is a bit confusing to me. Here's what I did. I needed rocker panels anyway, so I took a piece of 3" exhaust, cut the length of my replacement rocker. Then I cut a section out of it (about a third) and welded it to the car for a rocker. I kept the concave part facing out, so the side pipes would be tucked into the car, rather than just hanging there. A few holes for fastening, and some nuts tack welding to the pipes. NO SHOW brackets. Stu