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Technical ***Febrrruary 2023 Banger Stay Warm***

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by Jiminy, Feb 1, 2023.

  1. Jiminy
    Joined: Oct 25, 2012
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    Link to previous month: January 2023 Banger Meet Thread

    Coming Events: (PM Jiminy with additions/corrections)
    Stay safe.


    For the HAMB banger newbies, here are some links to a lot of banger info:

    Jim Brierley's book 4-bangers! And me! is a must read book for all banger enthusiasts. US customers send $34.00 all color except for the oldest pictures (includes S/H in the U.S.A.), PayPal welcome, to:
    Jim Brierley, 39480 Colleen Way, Temecula, CA 92592.
    email: jimb4e4@gmail.com
    phone: 951-695-7313.


    A few links to speed equipment companies there may be more
    https://specialtymotorcams.com/index.php#header
    http://www.millerhi-speedheads.com/index.html
    http://www.modelatrader.com/brumfield/brumfield.html
    https://www.hotforhotfours.com/advertisers.htm
    https://www.secretsofspeed.com/speed-parts

    Bert's, Synder's, Mikes affordable also list some speed performance parts.

    Here is a list of most of the prior monthly banger meet links:
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=161498


    Banger basics. another info link list:
    http://www.fordgarage.com/


    http://www.plucks329s.org/index.htm

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=251717

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=42480

    The link below shows flywheel lightening dimensions
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/may-bang-er-thread.470853/page-4#post-5212157
    and this link shows the missing image from the above post
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/...-work-on-bangers.1010716/page-3#post-11427055


    The 4 Banger hot rod picture thread.
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/the-4-banger-hot-rod-picture-thread.997051/


    Model B rod bearing insert numbers
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6992484#post6992484


    Engine tuning with a Vacuum gauge
    http://web.archive.org/web/20120415...e.com/tuning-with-a-vacuum-gauge-spg-148.html


    Adjusting dual Strombergs:
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6638461#post6638461


    Helpful Model A tools and tips:
    http://www.maurer-markus.ch/ford_a/tipps.index.en.html


    Gary in MN's late model Malory distributor conversion for A/B engine:
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9147025&postcount=109


    Elrod's stuck head tech:
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=218487


    Model A generator to alternator conversion:
    http://ejwhitneyco.com/automotive.html


    Gear ratio / speed and RPM calculator:
    http://www.accuautoparts.com/calculator.php


    Model A master cylinder mounting bracket ideas:
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...73#post4953173


    Go here to read the 1931 edition of Harry Ricardo's book "The High Speed Internal Combustion Engine"
    http://www.scribd.com/full/40610101?access_key=key-w2bcjicdancrnxypd05


    Chevy Banger Stuff
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=463465


    Post 198 starts a great discussion of the shape of a flat head combustion chamber
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=470853&page=10


    T-5 5 speed in a Torque Tube:
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=256226


    New Banger Block in the Works
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/new-banger-block-in-the-works.616056/


    Model A & B Style Cast Iron Cylinder Head Compression Ratios.
    http://www.fordgarage.com/pages/headcompressionratio.htm
     
  2. winduptoy
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  3. Savage Coupe
    Joined: Jun 20, 2020
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    from Washington

    Hello fellas. Does anyone have experience/ info on enlarging the lifter bores to fit Chrysler lifters? What tool/ tools did you use and any pictures would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks,
    Hance
     
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  4. Savage Coupe
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    from Washington

    Also does anyone have a good source for a cam blank?

    Thanks,
    Hance
     
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  5. denis4x4
    Joined: Apr 23, 2005
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    from Colorado

    Checking in...returning to Durango next week as I can no longer stand the great weather in San Diego
     
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  6. 62pan
    Joined: Jun 8, 2008
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    Checking in
     
  7. Thanks Jiminy!
    Year is flying by...
     
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  8. Hance,
    Have done this with a reamer and a Bridgeport mill
    There are two sizes, ream with either .625 or .633
    Do not run the smaller lifter in the larger bore, had one come in that way, a mess.

    John
     
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  9. fourd
    Joined: Jan 17, 2013
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    from Colorado

    Checking in for December, January and February.
    December Flabob Airport Drags was a blast & January Flaming Gorge Resort Snow Rally was too. Flabob Airport was a great venue, not sure I will make the April meet with my car yet.

    Flabob Dags 0045.jpg 2023 Snow Rally 0045.jpg
     
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  10. noboD
    Joined: Jan 29, 2004
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    Here. Does anyone know what's going on with Binger, haven't seen him for a while?
     
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  11. Stovebolt
    Joined: May 2, 2001
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    Checking in.

    not much news from me - I took the coupe on the River City coupe and Roadster Club Reliability Run this past weekend. 100 mile run after a 40 minute drive to get there in temperatures approaching 90-95 degrees F.

    The coupe performed flawlessly
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  12. Eisenmann
    Joined: Feb 3, 2018
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    Eisenmann

  13. Dedsoto
    Joined: Jan 7, 2014
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    from Australia

    Checking in, nothing to report so here's some pics from my timing gear failure and resurrection at the Red Dust Revival last September

    Screenshot_20230125-214725_Facebook.jpg
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  14. winduptoy
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    Yes,
    I communicated with him late last year, to see what was up with him. He had a job duty change which has been more challenging for him and he has taken on a model train layout in his spare time. He is good, life priorities has just taken a shift in direction. I miss his interactions too
    Thinking he is probably freezing his butt off in Cheyanne at the moment as well....
     
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  15. winduptoy
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    IMG_20230202_105806381.jpg getting close to back together
     
  16. RussTee
    Joined: Mar 25, 2008
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    checking in from New Zealand cruising time summer here
     
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  17. Hitchhiker
    Joined: May 1, 2008
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    Just throwing it out....

    I am looking for an original 2 carb intake for an improved Cragar OHV...before I start making one. Thanks!

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  18. Check'n in. I did some driving instruction at Buttonwillow Raceway Park a couple of weeks ago! Great fun! 2021BE(1).jpg 2021BE(4).jpg BE2019(2).jpg s
     
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  19. noboD
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    Thank you. I was hoping it was that he's just busy.
     
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  20. Checking in! Started disassembling the water pump @noboD sent me. I'll be grabbing this Parker side drive setup this weekend at GNRS! 328072120_1384310322106959_6652777899607968628_n.jpg 327319840_1040230350324015_3731234936515737363_n.jpg 327372729_1683495822084233_1093834812107940246_n.jpg 327430564_1827418227618813_1763223725758137423_n.jpg
     
  21. Outback
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    Checking in, but nothing to report!
     
  22. Outback
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    I am wondering if anyone has any info or experience on the Full HAL engines 116CI engines?
     
  23. Mainedrifter2
    Joined: Apr 3, 2022
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    It’ll be -20 here this weekend but I did order a new banger motor from California.
     
  24. 4BangerDean
    Joined: Aug 10, 2013
    Posts: 267

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    What are you having built?
     
  25. I have a 212 cu in for sale
    Completely rebuilt just missing exhaust and carbs
     

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  26. Mainedrifter2
    Joined: Apr 3, 2022
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    Hey Brian, H&H is going to whip up a super touring banger block with a Dan Price head for me and hopefully I’ll be ready to roll by the time the snow melts here in Maine.
     
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  27. 4BangerDean
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    That will be really nice. I’m sure you can’t get it soon enough.
     
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  28. Outback
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    What a cool Engine! what is the bottom end like? 3 or 5 main? Looks similar to am A/B?



    My boss has a full HAL that he has set aside for a vintage road/race car, but it needs a full rebuild. I'll try & get a pic next week.
     
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  29. This is a full HAL motor, 5 mains and billet crank.
    This one is 4.25 stroke, I think there is enough room to go 4.7 stroke.
    I am looking for one of the Indy versions, 255 or 270 cid.

    John
     
  30. Outback
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    I saw the cast name in the block, such a cool thing!

     

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