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Fender less cars in British Columbia

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by hb32, May 15, 2013.

  1. patterg2003
    Joined: Sep 21, 2014
    Posts: 885

    patterg2003

    Internet. Appreciate your courage. As one who has worked with many provincial boiler, building. electrical, MOL, inspectors & recently an aircraft inspector know that they have their standards to uphold. I know as the person responsible for the work the requirement is to meet the regulatory standard irregardless of any personal opinions of the std. There is a mutual expectation that the work inspected is in compliance with very little discretion allowed on either side. Regulatory inspectors cannot turn a blind eye to blatant non compliance issues like missing fenders. The inspectors purpose is to make sure any completed work being inspected is done correct & is safe. Most inspectors are knowledgeable and decent people if a person takes the time to talk to them. It is a mistake to put together work out of compliance and then think that it is possible to negotiate with the inspector to accept the work.

    Internet clarified what is required to p*** a safety inspection in BC as an expert. He as the builder had to make regulatory compliance to have his vehicle licensed the same as any other builder. There is no free p*** or variance permitted. Internet shared as a fellow BC hot rodder that when it was at home that the fenders came off & driving has drawn no attention as other BC members have also stated. It is up to those that regulate traffic safety whether they wish to take up the issues of no fenders. He put the information out fairly for people to use as they see fit.

    It was good information sharing on what is required to p*** an inspection and what he did as a fellow BC member. He presented both sides of the issue honestly. The pile on was not justified.
     
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  2. Here is the latest info:

    I feel that some clarification is required!

    The Fair Weather Rule is nothing to do with the SVABC (we have a Gentleman’s agreement with the BCHRA that we would not interfere with their request and lobbying to achieve this)
    It does not fall under ICBC either. This initiative has been spearheaded by the BCHRA and they have been working very hard with CVSE and the Ministry of Transport who would have to request an order in Council with the Provincial Government to change the current regulations to allow such usage and we know that to get an order in council takes a LONG TIME. The best person to consult with this, to see where they are with their quest, is to contact Dan London.

    The SVABC has requested that the Modified Collector plate criteria be raised from 1958 up to 1974. ICBC and the Minister responsible for ICBC Todd Stone, have agreed but ”NOTHING” will happen until ICBC has completed the rebuild of their entire antiquated computer system, which has turned into an overwhelming $500 million task for the outside contractor. I suspect the earliest that we could see this happen would be late 2016. To be more realistic because I know what happens at ICBC (had 15 years of that!) would be the spring of 2017.

    The other change on the table is the request for the inclusion of composite and steel body replica hot rods that resemble a production built North American Car (Ford, Chevrolet, Dodge etc) of 1942 and prior manufacturer. So it would mean “yes” to Brookville, Dearborn, Factory Five 32 Fords etc. On the other hand it would be a “NO” the Factory Five Cobra Kit Cars and the Bugatti and MG kit cars on a VW floor pan.

    I hope this is of some help to make things a little clearer

    Regards

    Nigel Matthews
     
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  3. youngrodder1929
    Joined: May 28, 2006
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    Thanks Nigel !
     
  4. falcongeorge
    Joined: Aug 26, 2010
    Posts: 18,339

    falcongeorge
    Member
    from BC

    I worked as an insurance broker for 20 years(mostly on the commercial side, but because of my hobby, was the "go-to" guy on hot-rod and speciality vehicle stuff the regular autoplan front counter people couldn't handle), and I got that July 2016 date close to a year ago and I haven't followed up on it, so you very well could be right.
    So yes, I have also been on the receiving end of the same sort of "stuff" that Internet has been handed on this thread. I would pretty much tell a guy once that I was trying to help him, and was on his side. If that didn't chill him out, I would just head back into my office, I always had plenty of other work to do, and ALL of it paid better and generated more profit. It really doesn't pay to piss in the cheerios of a professional who is trying to help you out just because you don't like what he tells you. ;)
     
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  5. trollst
    Joined: Jan 27, 2012
    Posts: 2,104

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    Internet, didn't mean to attack you personally, just had a hot headed moment (they are rare for me), but after dealing with the last inspector I had used, I came away frustrated. My apologies, in fact, I agree with the whole safety inspection thing, I build a nice set of fenders for my cars, two reasons, one, to show the inspector that I'm not trying to get past him with as little effort as possible, two, they may in fact be used at some point in the future, so why not make a decent set. Bumpers? Well that can be difficult, how do you make a bumper for a track nosed T that looks anything but bad, I do the best I can.
    I never expect the inspector to cheat and risk his license, exactly the opposite, I too worked in an industry that dealt with the public, also had my share of unpleasantness. Twenty years with the city of Vancouver, I was happy to retire.
    While I'm spouting here, the reason I agree with the whole inspection thing is the rat rod movement and how some of these junkers are considered cool, cars that s****e the pavement with no regard to scrub, steering setups with no knowledge of ackerman and the role it plays, no gl***, no real exhausts to speak of. I've even seen open floors so the riders could watch the road go by, these same cars for sale at swap meets with prices based on their level of coolness, not workmanship.
    My T has zero bumpsteer, rides really nice, I'm betting you can drive it all day without feeling half dead when you get out, we'll see.
    Look, keep on keeping on, I hope we meet one day, we're all in this together, we all bring stuff to the hobby, Falcon George and others know a ton of **** I don't, I suspect I know a ton of **** others don't. Hoping in the future you'll continue to answer inspection stuff.
    Good day all. LeRoy.
     
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  6. In Alaska . I was on the committee to lobby our state legislatures to p*** a fender less and or hood less street rod bill. It took our group 3 years . Constantly meeting with the Division Of Motor Vehicles and the state legislators . In this bill the vehicles had to be pre 1948 to qualify under this amendment .
    Just need to stay involved to get laws changed.
    Good luck guys.
    Vic
     
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  7. gwhite
    Joined: Sep 1, 2007
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    Arguing on the internet is stupid. I'll give this thread one last shot...any more and it's done.
     
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  8. youngrodder1929
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  9. falcongeorge
    Joined: Aug 26, 2010
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    falcongeorge
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    from BC

    Boy, let me tell you, this is ONE case where I bet EVERYONE is glad I was right!!! WOOHOO!!!! Happy dance!!
     
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  10. Corsa
    Joined: Sep 22, 2012
    Posts: 63

    Corsa
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    Wow, this is awesome!
     

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