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Fiat Topolino value ?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by lilbill, Oct 9, 2007.

  1. jrzran
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    from florida

  2. jrzran
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    from florida

  3. japar
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    I had the old Rick Picard 48 AA/FA Fiat in my shop I beleive it was a Fiberglass Trends body, it was Hemi powered and tuned by Jimmy King of Warren RI. Everyone told me to splash the body but I got as far as the grille and that was about it. Rick purchased it from a guy in Cali in the early 70's named Joe Mondello . When Joe had it he ran of all things a Big Block Chevy, 427 I think and had some guy named Sush Mastubara as a driver anybody ever here of them? I could have bought the car with a blown 392 for 15K. Damm, I thought that was alot of $$ for a Fiat
     

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  4. rick finch
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    You're joking right? Mondello & Matsubara ran one of the most famous altered Fiats of all time...yeah, we've heard of them.;):rolleyes:
     
  5. japar
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    No I am not kidding I had Ricks car in my shop for awile and didn't that Joe guy build Oldsmobile Engines d<TABLE style="BORDER-BOTTOM: white 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: white 1px solid; BORDER-TOP: white 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: white 1px solid" id=963 border=0 cellSpacing=2 cellPadding=5 width="100%" bgColor=#d2d2d2><TBODY><TR bgColor=#ededed><TD class=textdisplay bgColor=#ffffff vAlign=top rowSpan=12 align=center>EDIT
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    </TD><TD class=textdisplay bgColor=#acacac rowSpan=3 width="10%" align=center><!--a href="javascript<b></b>:viewImage('admin/viewimage.php?i=1305825962_File0326.jpg&full=yes')"-->[​IMG] John L. Johnson
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    </TD><TD class=textdisplay bgColor=#acacac vAlign=top width="45%">Rick Picard (M) from Connecticut USA (Comp Nr/Finish: )</TD><TD class=textdisplay bgColor=#acacac vAlign=top width="45%">1973 - Category: FUELALT, Type: AN, Class: AA/FA, Div: 1</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#c8c8c8><TD class=textdisplay vAlign=top>"Rick Picard" Owned by Rick Picard from Connecticut USA </TD><TD class=textdisplay vAlign=top>Crew Chief: Rick Picard</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#dcdcdc><TD class=textdisplay colSpan=3>'68 Fiat Topolino by Ron Scrima, Exhibition Engineering | Powered by a 426 Chrysler Hemi with 2 speed manual transmission </TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ededed><TD class=textdisplay colSpan=3><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD class=textdisplay>1/4 Mile ET:</TD><TD class=textdisplay>Unknown at Unknown </TD><TD class=textdisplay>1/4 Mile MPH:</TD><TD class=textdisplay>Unknown at Unknown</TD></TR><TR><TD class=textdisplay>1000 FT ET:</TD><TD class=textdisplay>Unknown at Unknown</TD><TD class=textdisplay>1000 FT MPH:</TD><TD class=textdisplay>Unknown at Unknown</TD></TR><TR><TD class=textdisplay>1/8 Mile ET:</TD><TD class=textdisplay>Unknown at Unknown</TD><TD class=textdisplay>1/8 Mile MPH:</TD><TD class=textdisplay>Unknown at Unknown</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><!-- TOPFUEL 1973 Records: 1/4 MILE: 5.780 ET, 247.25 MPH | 1000 FT. 0.000 ET, 000.00 MPH | 1/8 MILE: 4.432 ET, 190.00 MPHTOPFUEL 1973 Average: 1/4 MILE: 6.456 ET, 222.08 MPH | 1000 FT. 0.000 ET, 000.00 MPH | 1/8 MILE: 4.889 ET, 166.34 MPHEntry's 1973 Performance, All Time (percentage of average) and By Year (0 to 100 rating for the year):1/4 Mile: ET 0.98167529 X AVG; MPH 1.01310736 X AVG | Rating: ET 58.80, MPH 55.781000 FT.: ET 0.00000000 x AVG; MPH 0.00000000 X AVG | Rating: ET 00.00, MPH 00.001/8 Mile: ET 0.94559210 x AVG; MPH 1.02200310 X AVG | Rating: ET 74.00, MPH 64.00--><TR bgColor=#dcdcdc><TD class=textdisplay colSpan=3>Entry's 1973 Performance Ratings (0 to 100) based on comparison to average ET/MPH: </TD></TR><TR bgColor=#dcdcdc><TD class=textdisplay colSpan=3><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD class=textdisplay>1/4 Mile Rating: ET 00.00, MPH 00.00 </TD><TD class=textdisplay>Entry is 0.00000 times average ET and 0.00000 times average MPH</TD></TR><TR><TD class=textdisplay>1000 FT Rating: ET 00.00, MPH 00.00</TD><TD class=textdisplay>Entry is 0.00000 times average ET and 0.00000 times average MPH</TD></TR><TR><TD class=textdisplay>1/8 Mile Rating: ET 00.00, MPH 00.00</TD><TD class=textdisplay>Entry is 0.00000 times average ET and 0.00000 times average MPH</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><!--table width="100%"> <tr> <td class="textdisplay" width="78">1/4 Mile:</td> <td class="textdisplay" width="20%">ET 0.00000 x AVG; MPH 0.00000 x AVG</td> <td class="textdisplay">Rating: ET 00.00, MPH 00.00</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="textdisplay">1000 FT:</td> <td class="textdisplay">ET 0.00000 x AVG; MPH 0.00000 x AVG</td> <td class="textdisplay">Rating: ET 00.00, MPH 00.00</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="textdisplay">1/8 Mile:</td> <td class="textdisplay">ET 0.00000 x AVG; MPH 0.00000 x AVG</td> <td class="textdisplay">Rating: ET 00.00, MPH 00.00</td> </tr> </table--></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ededed><TD class=textdisplay colSpan=3><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD class=textdisplay align=right>1973 Records: </TD><TD class=textdisplay>1/4 Mile: 6.605 ET, 230.00 MPH </TD><TD class=textdisplay>1000 Ft. 0.000 ET, 0.00 MPH </TD><TD class=textdisplay>1/8 Mile: 4.810 ET, 140.62 MPH </TD></TR><TR><TD class=textdisplay align=right>1973 Average: </TD><TD class=textdisplay>1/4 Mile: 7.310 ET, 199.25 MPH</TD><TD class=textdisplay>1000 Ft. 0.000 ET, 0.00 MPH</TD><TD class=textdisplay>1/8 Mile: 5.460 ET, 124.00 MPH</TD></TR><TR><TD class=textdisplay align=right>1973 Minimum: </TD><TD class=textdisplay>1/4 Mile: 7.830 ET, 186.75 MPH</TD><TD class=textdisplay>1000 Ft. 0.000 ET, 0.00 MPH</TD><TD class=textdisplay>1/8 Mile: 5.790 ET, 116.93 MPH</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><!--tr bgcolor="#ededed"> <td class="textdisplay" colspan="3"> 1/4 Mile ET: Unknown at Unknown | 1/4 Mile MPH: Unknown at Unknown </td> </tr><tr bgcolor="#ededed"> <td class="textdisplay" colspan="3"> 1/8 Mile ET: Unknown at Unknown | 1/8 Mile MPH: Unknown at Unknown </td> </tr--><!-- 1,000 Addition, Clark March 23rd, 2009 --><!--tr bgcolor="#ededed"> <td colspan="3" class="textdisplay"> 1000 FT. ET: Unknown at Unknown | 1000 FT. MPH: Unknown at Unknown </td> </tr--><!-- --><!--tr bgcolor="#ededed"> <td class="textdisplay" colspan="3"> For FUELALT in 1973 the Avg ET is 7.6200, Avg MPH is 199.000. This entry: ET is 0.00000000 times Avg; MPH is 0.00000000 times Avg </td> </tr--><!--tr bgcolor="#ededed"> <td class="textdisplay" colspan="3"> Entry's 1973 FUELALT Performance (0 to 100): ET Rating is Unknown, MPH Rating is Unknown </td> </tr--><TR bgColor=#ededed><TD class=textdisplay colSpan=3>No Racer Website</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ededed><TD class=textdisplay colSpan=3>Notes: The old Mondello & Mastubara AA/FA. </TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ededed><TD class=textdisplay colSpan=3>Submitted by Danny White, Last updated on Thursday, May 19, 2011, 01:26:02 PM by Danny White. </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
     
  6. rick finch
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    My "you're joking" question wasn't referring to you having the Fiat in your shop...;)
     
  7. Karpo
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    Here is Joe Mondello and Rick Picard at the Calif Reunion

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    And the car how it sits today

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  8. i doubt it is still at the same place for sale...seeing as it's a .......4 year old post,,,,,,,,, :D:D:D:D
     
  9. the modello and also the trillio brothers fiats are what lite the fire in my ass for topolino's....at age 11 you never could have convinced me i'ld own 1 one day....hell it was still a pipe dream at age 52:rolleyes:;):cool::cool::cool:
     
  10. fiat gasser
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    Look at it this way.
    These cars are out there, you just have to be in the right place at the right time and take advantage of it when it does happen because it may never come your way again.
     

  11. ya got that right, Bob!!!! i got the intial call on mine on a friday nite....i had just spent friday afternoon discussing the mods to be done to a body i was custom ordering from Rich and Rod n Race.....time wise it was to be ready for pick up on the weekending that my birthday was on...a postphoned ordering for a week to see if the deal was going to work out..which it did,:cool: ..

    yeah, you got jump when they pop...there are way fewer steel topolino's then there used to be....way fewer:eek::(:(....
     
  12. fiat gasser
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    a friend of mine and fellow Topolino owner from the west coast had heard of two topolino bodies at a New Jersey junk yard. After some extensive searching he located the business and struck a deal for the Fiats. He then pulled his trailer some three thousand miles to pick them up. When he got there the cars had been crushed to help make wieght on a scrap metal load. It was very unfortuneate, Two steel bodies gone. But, it also shows the lengths some people will go to grab one of these little cars.
     
  13. damn, that would really suck......

    if i had the money, i'ld picked up the few i've seen since get Lil Beast....got my hands full as is so...............
     
  14. GasserTodd
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    Got one today for about US$2500. Just a body and two original chassis's, tho only one is usable. Mint grill but the body looks like it sat in a wet field for some years. Bottom 6 inches on LH side are pretty much gone, but my wife already has one so we can use it as a pattern to get panels made up.

    I unfortunately put my wifes Topo up the back of a flat deck truck a few years ago and to repair it, the insurers had to get a new nose out of Switzerland. The new nose cost about US$1700, so I figure my buy price was okay.

    Have attached a pikky of my wifes purple one, tho the new one will be more of a street legal altered style of car.

    Will put up a pikky of the body when it arrives next weekend
     

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  15. GasserTodd
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    And heres a few pikkys of what I bought down here in New Zealand a week or so ago. Cost about US$2500 and yes, its rusty. But if you want a steel Topo, you should never let a chance go by.... For my money, I got the rusty body and two bare original chassis' and a front end.
     

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  16. Kenneth S
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    That's a steal!!! I paid $1200 for my 38 Topo and all I got just the main body, rear fenders, doors, and grill. As bare bones as you can get (no floorboards, or firewall either).
     
  17. Todd, is that a Fiat or a Simca ? Most hardtops were Simca or at least all the hardtops that are found these days seem to be Simca.
     
  18. GasserTodd
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    It was sold as a Fiat, and I have seen pikkys in the factory of Topolinos with the hard top, so I call it a Fiat too.

    The only Simca I ever saw was the 303 one that was in some magazines back in the 70s

    We have two hardtop Topos now. The Fiat guy who sold me the car told me the early Fiats had one side vent above the front guards, and a louvered top, and the later ones had two vents above the front guards and no louvres. We have one of each now.

    Do you know which version SIMCA got from Fiat? Or did they get both?
     
  19. WDobos
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    Fiats,Simcas and NSUs all came in both coupe and cabrolet. It seems to me the hardest part to come by in good shape is the nose peice as they get so banged up from accidents and cut up as race cars.
     
  20. GasserTodd
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    It cost our insurance company US$1700 to get a nose in Switzerland, and get it sent out to New Zealand to fit to the car.So yes, the noses have real value.
     
  21. chrisp
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    The first to be sold in France were Simca Fiat, then it bore only the Simca name, we have one in our shop it's all complete and running not banged up or rusted, on the firewall, on the grille and on the registration it says Simca Fiat.
    They were available as hard top or drop top, sedan delivery (rare but relatively easy to find), delivery with side glass (rarer) and coach built woodies (extremely rare) they all had the louvered cowl top.
    Then there was the slightly bigger Simca 6 which carries the same design only roomier, if we can say such a thing on those dwarf cars, those were also available as pick ups and near impossible to find coupe (frameless doors and swoopier roof line).

    The Simca 5 we have in our shop is for sale by the way and I'd rather see that being rebuilt as a gasser instead of being restored as a 50MPH highway cruiser...
     

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