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Flame throwin' - who has them??? TECH REQUEST

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Chopped50Ford, Jun 3, 2004.

  1. Chopped50Ford
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    Im sure some of us has flamethrowers on thier rides. My question is are they home made or store bought. I think that would be a great "Tech" post.
     
  2. straykatkustoms
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    Night Prowlers sells a kit for the flame throwers.

    Give Gary a call @ #417-682-3685

    I burned flames for years, you won't be disappointed

    Happy Trails,

    Mick
     
  3. magnet
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    do a search on this.. there have been plenty of posts.. even a home made thrower kit..
     
  4. stealthcruiser
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    homemade.
    six cylinder aircraft magneto for spark.
     
  5. Jkustom
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    PM 52plybizcoupe or whatever his name is..... Hes got some good tricks.....-J.
     
  6. REJ
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    I run them on my 40 Chevy and they are homemade.
    I use a CDI ignition off of a motorcycle and use a 12 volt fan from an auto parts store to drive the center. Run the wires to two coils off same motorcycle under the car and run the plug wires to the plugs in the pipes. I used the no foul adapters to install the plugs in the pipes. Run a hot wire to the fan motor and a switch, turn it on, shut the motor off, pump the gas or pull the manual choke and watch the fire!
     
  7. Frankenshovel
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    I'm getting redy to install a flame thrower kit in my 65 pontiac this weekend. I got it from spitfiire. Apparently you need a power source that produces a pulsating spark. I'll let ya know how it goes.
     
  8. Hellbilly_Buzzard
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    I had problems with my spitfire kit. The plugs would spark, but no flames. [​IMG] I had a couple of buddies look at the schematic and my setup but still no fire. I tried calling the guy up but could never get in touch with him. I did richen up the carb so much I could barely drive it. I got about a two inch flame then. [​IMG]
     
  9. suedesled
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    Use a 95psi pump teed of the tank with diesel pickup glow plugs and windshield squirters from a dodge, HUGE FLAMES
     
  10. I don't really dig on the idea of cutting spark to the motor and washing the cylinders in fuel.

    This is generally how the kits work.

    A more motor-friendly (and fun) way to go is:

    -Get an EFI fuel pump that flows a ton and run a line from your fuel tank to it
    -Run a line off it, split the line w/ a Y-fitting, and then run a line to each exhaust pipe.
    -At the ends of each line you put a one way flow fitting (to keep burning fuel from heading up the line)
    -Next another small piece of line and then a pinched piece of brake line as a nozzle, clamped in.
    -Now you wire the pump to a switch in your ride.

    **The Nitrous nozzles sound like a good idea but they ****. They make little, puffy flames, due to their atomizing fuel rather than spraying it**

    I'll let someone else explain the wiring, as I'm **** with it. Basically, it's the same set-up as the kits, minus the fact that you don't need to bathe your cylinders and you don't need to cut ignition to the motor to light up.

    And here's the key bit of info. that most people **** up on: Use hot rated Diesel glow plugs rather than spark plugs. Spark plugs don't much like having fuel sprayed on them.

    Because you are actually spraying fuel rather than fogging it you can do a neat little trick.

    1. Find a nice road w/ a bunch of dirty *****es in tube-tops hanging out.
    2. Hit the switch to your fuel supply and slowly roll forward about 20 yards w/ out lighting.
    3. Light her up.

    Result: Two big ol' strips of flames running 20 yards down the road and dirty *****es in tube-tops thinkin' you're one cool cat.

    **I recommend not doing this w/ people behind you, but hey, it's you're choice**

    Seacrest, Trout!
     
  11. wayfarer
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  12. Frankenshovel
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    In response to Hellbilly Buzzard. Did you check the gap in your plugs or experiment with different sized gaps?
     
  13. BigDdy31
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    [ QUOTE ]

    1. Find a nice road w/ a bunch of dirty *****es in tube-tops hanging out.
    2. Hit the switch to your fuel supply and slowly roll forward about 20 yards w/ out lighting.
    3. Light her up.

    Result: Two big ol' strips of flames running 20 yards down the road and dirty *****es in tube-tops thinkin' you're one cool cat.

    **I recommend not doing this w/ people behind you, but hey, it's you're choice**



    [/ QUOTE ]

    Hey Tony, if you're this tore up on shine, should you be thinkin' about settin' **** on fire? LOL [​IMG]

    Big Daddy Eric
     
  14. Well hell man, I need to get all lit up so I don't feel bad about setting the occasional ***** on fire. They don't much like that, in my experience.

    [ QUOTE ]
    [ QUOTE ]

    1. Find a nice road w/ a bunch of dirty *****es in tube-tops hanging out.
    2. Hit the switch to your fuel supply and slowly roll forward about 20 yards w/ out lighting.
    3. Light her up.

    Result: Two big ol' strips of flames running 20 yards down the road and dirty *****es in tube-tops thinkin' you're one cool cat.

    **I recommend not doing this w/ people behind you, but hey, it's you're choice**



    [/ QUOTE ]

    Hey Tony, if you're this tore up on shine, should you be thinkin' about settin' **** on fire? LOL [​IMG]

    Big Daddy Eric

    [/ QUOTE ]
     
  15. badpat
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    i've been makin kits for a few years now- always gets a good response- if anybody wants a set- $50
     
  16. 57wagon
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    I want a kit that is either gas, or propane injected.. I don't want to cut the power to the engine....


    Are your's like that?
     
  17. badpat
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    all you do is use the standard flamethrower kit, but wire it up so it has direct power instead of divertin the ignition. as fer the injectors, they are easy to do, but no, a $50 kit does not come with injectors and an electric fuel pump
     
  18. PBRmeASAP
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    any suggestions on which gloplugs to use?
    also if you run fuel injectors, what needs to be wired to set them off? just a hot wire?
     
  19. Hellbilly_Buzzard
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    I tried the recomended gap, I went with a small gap and gradually increased it. Tried a differnt brand of plugs. No love.

    Maybe this bit of info will help. I have noticed whenever the accelerator is pushed the plugs stop sparking. When the acclerator is not depressed, Sparks.
     
  20. SwitchBlade327
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    Bringing thi spost back up becuase I have questions. I've gota regular flame thrower setup on my car, I hate the thought of washing my cylinders down with gas so I change my oil frequently if I use them. I'm tired of doign this though. I already have a 95 psi in line fuel pump, what will I have to change about the wiring of the "normal" flamethower kit to swith over to the injection type?
    Does the brake line trick work better than using like windsheild washer nozzles? I'm trying to find some one way flow fittings too so I don't have to worry about the flame coming back on me, anyone have a source or part number? How far do you have your pipes stickin' out with an injection setup to keep from burning your bumper/paint up?

    Lots of questions, but I'm trying to get lots of things done at once and this is the only thing I'm still unsure about how to pull off.

    I know it's retarded and unsafe so i don't wanna hear it, I like fire.
     
  21. Bugman
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  22. SwitchBlade327
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    What was that supposed to tell me? I already searched the forums, saw that post and the link doesn't work......
     
  23. oldskool55
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    oh man i dont think i shouldve read that.... trouble here i come
     
  24. PBRmeASAP
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    switchblade....
    pm me, i might be of some help. avoid all the BS about flamethrowers
     
  25. Bugman
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    Step 1. Get 2 spare coils and some plug wires
    2. Mount the spark plugs into the tailpipes.
    3. run a wire from the battery to the new coils in parallel
    4. run a wire threw a switch between the condenser wire(engine coil "-"), and the new coils
    5. Rev up the engine and hit the switch, and pump the gas like mad.
    6. enjoy

    Footnotes:
    this system essentially robs the spark from the motor. as soon as you hit the switch, the motor will start to die down. Make sure that you shut the switch off before the motor stops spinning completly, or you could get flames traveling back up the exhaust. You won't blow anything up, but it could travel all the way to the carb and start a fire.

    This is hard on the motor because you are running so much raw gas threw it. it washes the oil off of the cylinder walls, as well as diluting the oil in the crankcase. Change your oil often, evert 500 miles or so.

    Flame throwers and NOT legal anywhere on the road, and in alot of places it's not even legal to have plugs in your tailpipes. However as long as your not using them on the road, most cops don't really care. car shows and your driveway are private property, and thats why you can use them there worry free.

    Another way to do it is to hook a distributer and a coil up to a 12V fan motor. then just run wires and plugs to the pipes. the motor spins the distributer just like the engine does, so basically, you have a complete ignition system in a box in your trunk. Also handy for spare ignition parts on the road.

    And I still need a copy of the So-Cheap wiring diagram site
     
  26. ShortBus
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    Thursday Night Garage ***ociation has the same article that was on SoCheap's site. It shows how to build the electronics for about $20 at Radio Shack. I'm sure at least one of those TNGA guys is a HAMBer.
    Follow the TECH link to the article.

    I really like bugman's idea of stealing the spark from the dizzy. Saves $20.

    HellBilly Buzzer- Your pipes have to be hot for them to fire. Drive around for a while before you light em.
     
  27. choppermatt
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    I use a superflames kit, but ive heard someone using a wiper motor and transistors to simulate a moving engine. high tech ****
     
  28. PinHead
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  29. ratrodford
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  30. Bugman
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    Thanks ShortBus for the link, that's the one I was looking for.

    here's a pic of an ignition box I built once apon a time(cause I had the parts laying around). 12V fan motor connected to a VW distributer with some rubber hose, a coil, 1 plug wire to each pipe, all in a wood box. remember to ground the distributer body to the ch***is of the car. IMO, this setup works best for a fuel injected system where you don't kill the motor. the GM HEI works well too because of it's build in coil, but it's pretty bulky.
     

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