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Technical flat head in a model a

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by richard crow, Oct 21, 2023.

  1. richard crow
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    putting a 59ab flathead in a model a do i have to trim the front cross member for crank pully clearance
     
  2. alanp561
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    What a purist from the Ford Barn has to say:
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  3. ClarkH
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    I'm also putting a flathead into a Model A. I was told I should expect to trim the front cross member for pulley clearance.
     
  4. j ripper
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    from napa ca.

    Here you go!
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  5. ClarkH
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    Thanks for that picture, @j ripper. Can't speak for the original poster, but it was just what I needed to see.
     
  6. banjorear
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    Richard:

    If you use the single belt pulley set up for the larger crank snout (I know what the pulley looks like, just forget the year) and a fan mounted generator, you shouldn't have to or very slightly. Most folks do since the rear of the crossmember is a bit bulky when not using the Model A motor mounts any longer.

    Any other set up will cause the pulley to hit that rearward lip of a Model A crossmember.

    If you don't have it already, this Tardell book is an excellent resource. Walks you through every step with clear pictures and explanations.

    https://www.verntardel.com/store/p397/Vern_Tardel_-_Hot_Rod_Your_Model_A_-_Second_Edition.html
     
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  7. len_m
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    from wpg,can

    Not sure what your end goal is for car appearance, but what I did for fitting 8ba into model a was I knocked out all the bolts holding front crossmember in, and pushed it forward 1.5" existing holes lined up, just had to drill a few new ones. I did this because I wanted to keep original crossmember and I wanted to use stock mechanical fan from 48-52 f1 truck.

    The extra 1.5" isn't noticeable, the only thing it messes with is hood, fender length. All depends what direction you're heading. Can get you some pictures if needed.
     
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  8. Since you have a 59AB type engine - you only need a single sheeve pulley to drive the water pumps and the fan. I tend to use a 40 pulley that was designed for a crank-mount fan and then put the pulley in a lathe and cut the front flange off and also trim the length to just past the end of the crank snout. This is a compact as you can get it.

    Here is the one you want to start with - then cut the end off and trim to length:

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  9. banjorear
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    This is the pulley you need for a one belt set up. Pulley #1.jpg pulley #2.jpg pulley #3.jpg
     
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  10. The pulley above is exactly what you want to end up with. If you can find one like that - buy it, or buy the one that I show and cut the end off. There pulleys are designed for 37 - 48 type water pumps and a front-mount distributor.
     
  11. Here's what I did.....

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