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FLATCAD RACING Bonneville 2011 Build

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by 38FLATTIE, Jul 27, 2010.

  1. Works great and sounds killer!
     
  2. Vergil
    Joined: Dec 10, 2005
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    That is one bad a** sounding killer flathead .....

    Vergil
     
  3. She sounds pretty nice now doesn't she!
     
  4. spot
    Joined: Jun 10, 2009
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    spot
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    from usa

    Congrats guys. That's really sweet. all the hardwork has paid off now go set some records!
     
  5. fenderless
    Joined: Mar 31, 2006
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    from Norway

    Yes she does:)!

    I started to shake all over when i heard her nice purr idleing 1600-2200-1600-2200-1600......:D
    Very nice job Dale, really paid off!?:)

    Br
    Kjell

    ................................
    Taildraggerfenderless
     
  6. HotrodVon
    Joined: Mar 12, 2001
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    WOW! That is bad!

    If the tune is as mild as you say it is... then you will keep it together and get it done!

    What a fantastic sounding flathead.


    -Keven
     
  7. Locomotive Breath
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    Locomotive Breath
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    Great job guys, she sounds really good.
     
  8. One more, the prep before the first run ........
     
  9. Buddy you need to put FP somewhere on the car.......
     
  10. Fantastic work guys. You all should be pretty proud. Sounds absolutely awesome.

    (btw Buddy, there's now an Imperial intake plus a 4-71 on it's way to Australia, mainly due to this build! I just couldn't help myself!)
     
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  11. awesome....extremely impressed.

    get that puppy back into the car and let it get it's feet wet before you start to wring it's neck hard.

    Congrats to all involved, desipte having watched (from-a-far) the emotional rollercoaster this build has been, to see those clips lays tribute to the top effort over this time, and should, offer confidence that you're moving in the right direction, and with sound foundation.

    Again, congrats, get it in the car and haul ass...

    Cheers,

    Drewfus:)
     
  12. Smokey2
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    Flatcad, Still Watchin' wid "KEEN INTEREST "..........I wear your SHIRT at Least once a week......git lott'sa questions/ comments.....be interested to help tha' fund, again....especially IF ypou use the NEW LOGO !

    MY VOTE on Color..............Yellar, an I Like the post using Red Flames, or sumthing similar.
    Just my Vote.
    Waitin'..................Watching !

    Smoke II
     
  13. The engine sounds great. Can't wait to see it under full song flying down the salt/lake bed.
     
  14. Love the sound but that idle isn't very smooth. lol
     
  15. dragsled
    Joined: May 12, 2011
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    Pretty good numbers ,You guys did good, can't wait to hear what it does on the salt, Tim Jones
     
  16. TV
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    I think those are great numbers for a Flathead--Period.--TV
     
  17. dragrcr50
    Joined: Jul 25, 2005
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    Congrats guys, Buddy You are right where you told me youd be long time ago when we put the cage in it. and judging by the runs at bonne with the streeet rod motor in it. well i cant wait to see you running this year. its gonna be bitchin man.....see you there, sam
     
  18. 38FLATTIE
    Joined: Oct 26, 2008
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    Thanks for the kind words and support, everyone!

    I'm at our patron saint of machine work, Pops29-D&D Engineering in Turlock. If you need anything, these guys are AWESOME!

    We're aligning the tranny with the crank. Hopefully, Don will post pics of the process!
     
  19. fenderless
    Joined: Mar 31, 2006
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    Did it work out with Dale's new camcorder:)?
    If there's any problem? let me know:)!
    Would love to se the final pull:D!!!

    Br
    Kjell

    .....................................
    Taildragger&fenderless
     
  20. pops29
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    from turlock ca

    Well Buddy is finally on his way home from the tour of California !!!
    We spent the day at my shop aligning the bell housing to the center line of the crank shaft and also Designing a new tension bracket for the oil pump. ((( We had to go this way because we could not spin the crank -- we would have had to disassemble the front end of the motor ))) I first built and alignment tool on the lathe to mount to the rear of the crankshaft.[​IMG]
    We machined a shaft on the lathe and finished the mounting surface and bearing diam. between centers to make sure there was no run out .. we used a wide roller bearing on the end to mount the indicator to. We then mounted the shaft to the crank shaft
    [​IMG]

    then mounted the bell housing ((((( SORRY ABOUT THIS DALE !!---- BUT ----------THIS IS WHERE BUDDY GOT THE HAMMER IN HIS HAND ))))))))

    [​IMG]

    We dialed the trans pilot in within .002 to the crank. We then drilled and doweled the bell housing with 2 each 3/8" dowel pins.
    We also laid out the new tenshioner with auto cad , laser cut a 16 g sample for testing and lasered the finished part in 3/8"
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  21. Hey Don, once again really nice work! Tell me that Buddy didn't use the BFH too much? :eek:

    Thanks for coming to the dyno session, was great seeing you, Carl and Jim. Much appreciate all the fantastic work!

    B&S
     
  22. pops29
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    Nothing more than a grinder and a hammer couldn't fix LOL
     
  23. Nice job Don............don't let Buddy anywhere near a hammer........
     
  24. OahuEli
    Joined: Dec 27, 2008
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    Geez what a beast, I'm still grinning! Looking forward to the day you get this on the salt.
     
  25. 38FLATTIE
    Joined: Oct 26, 2008
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    38FLATTIE
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    from Colorado

    I gotta give the team kudos here, from the vision, design, workmanship, and implementation-all turned out great!


    What an exciting trip! I was scheduled to leave Monday. Easter Sunday, after everyone had left, I was getting all the parts ready I needed for the trip. My wife suggested that I leave, so that I would not have to drive straight through. As I was asking her if she was sure, I was loading the truck as fast as I could!

    After stopping to see Wayno (it was a blast), I arrived mid- afternoon on Monday, and John and I unloaded the engine. Later in the afternoon, John got it set on the dyno. I checked out Chico, then picked Dale up from the airport.

    Tuesday morning Dale and I chatted over breakfast, then headed over to Vintage Hotrod, and spent most of the day hooking everything up. Late Tuesday afternoon, we fired the Flatcad for the first time! We were pumped, to say the least, and headed for steaks and drinks. The waiter put too much ice in our drinks, though, and hurt us a little!

    Wednesday, after several aspirin for the ice overdose, Dale and I headed downstairs to have breakfast with Don, Carl, and Jim, who came over to watch the festivities .I left my paperwork on John's desk, so until he sends it to me, I'll go off of memory. First run we had it set real fat, and pulled around a 185 HP at 4500 rpm. . We leaned out the next run, set the timing, and got 351? off of just over 7 lbs boost. We kept at it, until we reached the 570 HP, 544 ft/lbs torque, at 5500 and 14.2 PSI boost. Sooo, back for steaks and drinks!

    Thursday I settled the bill with John, and Dale and I got the engine ready to travel, loaded it up, and I took off for Don's shop=D&D Engineering in Turlock, CA.

    Friday, Don had several guys jump in and help, and not only did we get the new oil pump idler pulley assembly made, but got the bellhousing lined up correctly

    The trip home included 24" of snow on Donner Pass, rain into Utah, and being stuck on the interstate in a snowstorm, in western Wyoming, due to an accident-But I'm home!

    The only issues we had were a poorly installed freeze plug, that popped out, and the Barnes/Esslinger oil/water pump. The water pump didn't work at all, so we went to an electric pump. The oil pump bolts to the water pump, and the whole setup was put together at Barnes, then installed by us. By the 6th pull, the bolts c]ames loose on the oil pump, some even fell out! I'm pretty sure we bent the shaft, and tore up the vanes. It will be interesting to see what they say Monday!- see pic

    I have to give Don and John props here- if you need any machine work, or laser cutting, give Don at D&D engineering a call. He's a Flatcad sponsor, team member, Hotrodder, and a helluva talented guy!

    I wouldn't even think of taking an engine somewhere besides John, after our experience! He's a proven engine builder, takes the time to explain everything, and is 1st class in his approach to getting things done!



    We're going to 'ease' into this, slowly and as methodically possible, on the dirt and salt this year. After we're done running, we're going to tear down the engine, and look for the tweaks that might bring HP, without adding more boost-head flow, cam, ignition, etc.

    1st pic is breakfast Wednesday morning- from the left, Don, Carl, Jim, and Dale.
     

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  26. Ebbsspeed
    Joined: Nov 11, 2005
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    Hopefully if the vanes in the pump are damaged, your filters caught any specks of metal. That flatmotor really sounds great!
     
  27. Congratulations to all involved, it's been a long road but that makes it all worth it!:D:D:D:D:eek:
     
  28. 38FLATTIE
    Joined: Oct 26, 2008
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    38FLATTIE
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    from Colorado

    Here is the finished tensioner Pops29 whipped out!


    Thanks again, Don!
     

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  29. Nice stuff - beats the heck of the one that I had . . . that could only be adjusted about a 1/2"!

    Did you get the new oil-pump drive pulley mounted? How about the oil-pump, what shape is it in where the drive-bolts came loose?

    B&S
     
  30. 38FLATTIE
    Joined: Oct 26, 2008
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    38FLATTIE
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    from Colorado

    I spoke with Barnes, and sent them the oil pump back. They said they doubted there was any damage, due to the fact the pump shaft is supported on both sides. When you turn the pump, you can feel the vanes rubbing, so I have to believe there is some damage, even though there was no metal in the filter. I did get the new pulley mounted, along with the tensioner, before I sent it in.

    I’m back at work until May 6<SUP>th</SUP>, then home for the thrash, to try and get ready for El Mirage. I have to install the new water tank in the rear, fuel tank in the front, do all the plumbing, a lot of electrical, and get the car on scales.
    <O:p
    It will be a thrash, so if you’re close, and bored…..:D
     

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