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Hot Rods fly wheel thickness question?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by rusty rocket, Oct 27, 2014.

  1. rusty rocket
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    Need to run a 153 tooth flywheel on my 327 are there different thickness's of flywheels(o.e.m. or aftermarket)? The flywheel I have now is a stock camaro 153 tooth. The problem Im having is I have run out of spline on the input shaft so the clutch disk hits the flywheel and there is about 1/2" between the back of the motor and the front of the bellhousing. It looks like if I had a thiner flywheel it would all mate up.
     
  2. squirrel
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    sounds like a problem with the transmission? There was only one thickness of flywheel that I know of...although there were different clutch pressure plates, that required different throwout bearings. But that's not the problem.

    what transmission is it? what bellhousing? pictures?
     
  3. JohnEvans
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    The clutch mounting face to the crankshaft mounting face would be the same no matter what the flywheel weight/thickness is. As said your problem is with the trans.
     
  4. Got the right clutch disc?
     
  5. Truckedup
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    Yes, might be the problem
     
  6. Don't mean to sound insulting, but I ***ume the disc is not backwards?
     
  7. rusty rocket
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    No not in backwards(it will only bolt together with the disk in the right way). Ive had problems mating a nonworld cl*** t5 to a 1968 327, Ive posted several questions here on the hamb and cant get this figured out. Everything will bolt up with the fly wheel on but you put the pressure plate on and the throwout bearing hits the diaphram and theres a 1/2" gap between the motor and bell housing. Take the pressure plate off and just put the disk on the input shaft and the disk hits the fly wheel and there is a 1/2" gap between the motor and bell housing. Im using a bell housing from a v/8 monza I dont know if that is the problem. When I mated everything the first time without the fly wheel it wouldnt bolt up so I had to cut the 1/2" off the input shaft so I know thats not the problem. So this is the list of parts 1968 327, 153 tooth camaro flywheel, camaro pressure plate and throw out bearing, speed way 10" 14 spline clutch disk, v/8 monza bell housing, non world cl*** t-5 s10 trans.
     
  8. Mr48chev
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    There is a lot of T-5 in other applications than that they came in info on the net.

    I'm thinking one of the possible issues is that the collar on the bearing retainer that the throw out bearing rides on may be too long and or the splines on the shaft may not go back far enough on the shaft.
    Read the text in the second page in this article on this website http://hamiltonintakes.com/products/s10-t-5-swap-adapter
    I think the info you want is here though http://www.stovebolt.com/techtips/t5******2.htm He fought the same problems that you are fighting just the engines are different.
     
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  9. rusty rocket
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    Ive already milled the bearing retainer down. That was 1 of many of the problems.
     
  10. rusty rocket
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    Thanks mr48chev there is some useful info. I see hamilton intakes has a spacer but they are out of stock. I will have to do a search and see if anyone else makes one.
     
  11. squirrel
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    a couple pics of a 'normal" chevy trans and bellhousing. Trans input shaft is 6-3/4" long, bellhousing thicknes iss 6-1/4"

    this might help you figure out what in your combo is abnormal.

    trans02.jpg trans01.jpg
     
  12. Oldmics
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    Take the front bearing retainer off the ******. Stick a few bolts and some wide flat washers in so that the head gear wont fall out and then remount it and see if it will fit.

    May have to cut a wee bit more than 1/2 inch offa the bearing retainer.

    If you do have to remove material from the bearing retainer,please revisit the throwout bearing length.

    Oldmics
     
  13. Kerrynzl
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    You can get different length throwout bearing retainers.

    You need to measure the depth from the block face to the fingers/diaphragm with the clutch installed
    Then bolt the bellhousing to the gearbox and measure the front of the bearing to the face of the bellhousing to see if it pulls back enough.

    upload_2014-10-29_8-47-6.jpeg
     
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