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Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by flynbrian48, Apr 28, 2016.

  1. Cyclone Kevin
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    Thanks FB,
    The color of my 34 is Black Rose, it's a GM color that I first saw on a vette. The was s pic of a 32 Roadster with these killer wide whites that reminded me of the high end cars of the time. The location was the PRC RR in the late 40's early 50's . Look in the right of this photo.. IMG_9238.PNG

    I always saw that car in my mind as a deep purple. I always thought that I'd build one as a 32. When we did the 34, it was headed in a whole different direction, but a divorce of the guy that I worked for stopped it dead in tracks. Luckily as it was headed down a high tech road...... We stopped all that by buying the body 1st then Eastwood built chassis 2nd. And then we built it as you've seen it. All of this was nearly 30 yrs ago.
    I love this picture of your car when it was in the mag. Very Kool !!!!
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    And here's mine similar angle. IMG_9236.PNG
    Thanks for building this car, I'm looking forward to seeing yours done.
     
  2. flynbrian48
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    Great photo. A fenderless '34 has a great line, the 3/4 rear shot is really graceful. I wonder sometimes about the fiscal responsibility of "restoring" an abandoned 'glass bodied car, but I'll be in it for quite a bit less than had I bought all the bits new, and WAY less than a "real" '34. It's just out of my safe price range. Aside from a little repair of past indiscretions, like the passenger door being ripped off at speed, the bodywork is just the firewall I had to notch, and a little finessing of the rumble lid. The cold weather is forcing me to slow down (I heat the shop with a "black box" wood stove, painting is a risky proposition with open flame), so I'm hoping have everything done, and ready to paint in about 6 weeks, as soon as I can have some warm days to shoot the color. Then it's just putting it all back together. This photo is from Piscatelli Design P2170031.jpg here in MI, who had it for quite a while before it then got separated from the chassis and went back to CT, and Billy O's basement, who I got it from.
     
  3. flynbrian48
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    I thinkI have a winner in option #3 for the '34 dash. But, does that T'bird wheel and column, which looked good against the simpler, smaller center panel, look wrong against this full width one? 16265650_10212571487864803_781984247264807120_n.jpg 16265939_10212571488304814_1974936555766443461_n.jpg 16265939_10212571488304814_1974936555766443461_n.jpg
     
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  4. flynbrian48
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    Who puts door handles back on a smooth door? Who does that? ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1485719612.937202.jpg
     
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  5. flynbrian48
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    The doors now fit the cowl. The rumble lid (almost) fits the body now. I thought I'd get a little further today, but feel good getting at least this much ahead. Man, this thing has a TON of paint on it! Notice, no gas-hole any more! I'm going to cut lines in the body where the tulip panel, and below the tail pan meet the quarters too.
     
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  6. Cyclone Kevin
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    Looking Kool!!!!!! she's gonna be "Flyin w/Brian" soon enough!!!!!! ;).
     
  7. flynbrian48
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    Milo wants to go for a ride in P-paw's hot rod!
     
  8. Bandit Billy
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    Careful Brian, those little f-bodies like that white trans am are entry drugs into the world of muscle cars. Nothing to show for it but years of octane abuse, high insurance premiums and girls in tight Van Halen t-shirts.
     
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  9. flynbrian48
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    Get 'em interested in hot rods, there'll never be money for drugs and booze! That little toy TA was his dads, it got jumped a LOT. ;-) He opens the hood to look at the "car motor". I think the F500 trailer tow tractor (there's a matching "mobile home" makes up for the muscle car, doesn't it?
     
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  10. oldsjoe
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    One ride in P Paw's Hot Rod and he will be hooked! I know my grandsons were and are! Joe
     
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  11. flynbrian48
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    And we're still sanding. The rumble lid gap looked Ok when it was all flat black. Started cleaning up the 283, I have to decide what color to paint it now.
     
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  12. oldsjoe
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    Hell I'm licking the engine cart! I need to get one of those myself! Joe
     
  13. flynbrian48
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    They're .25 at Aldi's
     
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  14. oldsjoe
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    Your right and the basket makes for a great grilling surface!...........Now back to your cool Hot rod Build! Joe
     
  15. Bandit Billy
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    Joe, You don't know where that's been!

    Ford Orange is traditional...and HAMB friendly it seems.
     
  16. flynbrian48
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    Thought I was done with the rumble lid, but, no. Another 4 hours, and it, and the tulip panel, pass. I also had a little problem with the (previously damaged) upper hinge on the passenger door. They're cast iron, and it didn't like being clamped in the vise to be tweaked, and it broke. One stick of brazing rod later, and it's all better. The door actually fits now! 16386864_10212627671229352_8041742800655144287_n.jpg 16388063_10212627671429357_2457363262295700225_n.jpg
     
  17. oldsjoe
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    Looks like your getting there Brian nice. Joe
     
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    Brazing just like they would have done back in the day. Love it.
     
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  19. Aaron D.
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    Nice job of fitting everything up.
     
  20. oldsjoe
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    When I worked in the body Shop at Camp Pendleton in the Marines we brazed damn near everything. Oxygen accelleyne welded up rust and splits then brazed metal finish with dollies and hammers. Fit and finish wasn't a concern get em in get em out and back in the field was the priority. Joe


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  21. Cyclone Kevin
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    Sharon almost pee'd her pants when she read this,
    Great minds think alike, but this was free from around the corner of the house ;).
    Mind you, that's a Flathead Cad on it.
    We have a joke about shopping carts and their many uses, and yes we even made a Bar-B-Que out of two Model A Oil Pans and pieces of that cart.

    Paint the 34 and the engine deeeeep purrrrple.....;).
     
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  22. flynbrian48
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    They're hella stout!
     
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    Ever since I'd gotten this thing, I wondered, "How do I keep rain/wash water out of the trunk?". There's no rain gutter of course on the body where the rumble lid drops down into the trunk, so water has to just sheet down the lid and into the trunk. That can't work.
    My buddy Jeff has an original cabriolet with a rumble seat, and he sent me photos of his trunk, and the little lip that acts as a dam to keep water at the very back, and drain holes in the floor to let whatever runs in, run out.
    I had some oak 2x2's, and a gallon of polyester resin (I know, epoxy would be better, but the whole car is made of polyester resin, and my shop is cold, so...) and some mat, so I glassed the hole in the floor for the old Model A crossmember, glued a strip of oak to the floor with long strand 'glass filler, and laid three layers of saturated mat over the whole she-bang. I positioned it so it also serves as a stop for the rumble lid.
    The drivers door hung out at the bottom, no matter what I did, so I got a screen door turnbuckle at the hardware store, and with that I put a little twist in the door to align it.
    Easy.
    I also discovered that the door post and door frame (only a the hinge) are steel. Huh.
    There's an awful lot of cowl shake/flex, probably because there's no framing at the forward door post/cowl. Tomorrow I'm going to remedy that and glass in some wood behind the flimsy, unbraced 'glass door post. That'll give something substantial to mount the door striker and dovetail on, as now there's nothing behind them. Every time the doors are shut, the striker moves.
     
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  24. oldsjoe
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    What's that saying? Necessity is the MOTHER of invention? Or something like that! Joe
     
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    Chopped the w/s frame, put the turnbuckle in the passenger door, and finished the rumble lid and trunk floor this morning.
     
  26. Looks like your right on track for lots of happy Summer cruisin.
    I'm looking forward to seeing you get paint on it.
     
  27. flynbrian48
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    Me too! I have color, by the time we get warm weather, I'll be ready for paint and assembly.
     
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  28. Brian sure is coming together nicely. B T W They make a rubber stop for each side of the rumble lid at the bottom. Not sure if you knew that so I thought I would mention it. No metal in the A pillar? doesn't sound like Gibbons. Mine is one that Dwight Bond built & it has wood & metal for the A pillar & wood for the B pillar. The metal piece ties into a piece of 1" square tubing that goes behind the dash & connects to the other post with crows feet connecting them both to the frame. Git er dun!!!
    Bob
     
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  29. flynbrian48
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    The original builder thought (it's been a long time) that this may be a Speedway body. He bought it completely unbraced, whatever bracing is in it, he did. He thought it even lacked door jambs. I have some rectangular steel tubing, 1x1 1/2", that may make a good A pillar. There is a chunk of wood at the latch/dovetail (or it's just packed full of Kitty-Hair or the like), but the latch holes are wollered out, so it needs some attention. I think the body would be more stable with some bracing at the A pillar for sure. The back is very solid now, after the addition of the package tray/top well, which is tied to the B pillar now. Those are steel. I'm not knocking the way it's braced at all, it's lasted this long, but it won't hurt to make it a little more solid. For sure I want reinforcement of the A pillar.
    I was going to put a rubber bumper on the brace I put on the floor as a dam, like a hood bumper for the rumble lid. Should work fine. Or, I'll just cut 'em out of an old tire. ;-) My wife says our grandson is NOT riding in it anyway, so I won't put the gennie rumble seat cushions I have in it anyway. It'll be a trunk.
     
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    Ou might not believe it, but this after two hours of cleaning! I can see the floor!
     
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