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1952-59 Ford FNG needs help! 302/Aod in a '52

Discussion in 'Off Topic Hot Rods & Customs' started by hoeymon, Dec 6, 2009.

  1. hoeymon
    Joined: Nov 12, 2009
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    hoeymon
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    Thanks again for the invite, in the little spare time I have I truly dig the HAMB.
    Now down to business.... Now that Minnesota winter has begun to rear it's ugly head I'm looking to get my engine swap done. I have an 88 2wd 302/AOD combo from a basically free F150 just dying to go under the hood. Has anyone dealt with this swap before? I see Butch's has motor mounts, but what I don't know is....
    -will the trans/drveshaft clear the tunnel? (we're low in the back)
    -any ideas on what oil pan to use? 2wd truck pan looks ok
    -exhaust manifolds?
    -anyone ever hear of this 15" 0r 17" firewall to k-member measurement?, butchs asks for it for mounts, speedway doesn't
    Many thanks in advance for any advice ya got, I've done a ton of searches and have book marked a lot, but I'm still wary
    :confused:
    PS got the camera ready, will post a ton of pics
     
  2. JeffB2
    Joined: Dec 18, 2006
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    from Phoenix,AZ

    Look up Ms.Peanut's(aka Maria) earlier posts here there are some pics here that she posted.Also send her a pm she told me about the mounts and oil pan at the Sinners' party but I can't remember what year they were,the headers are Hedman block huggers.
     
  3. ascenttm
    Joined: Oct 25, 2007
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    from HERE

    Because 52 and 53 still had the 8cyl flathead 8cyl, I've heard you have to use a rear sump pan on the engine and you might have to do some mod to the cross member. As far as mounts I think you can use the three parts from Speedway - there's the mount for the motor then the round rubber with studs on both ends then the crossmember mount for the 52.
    If I get a chance later today, I'll look the part numbers for you.

    Ive seen a couple with 302's done around here and they used the 302 mounts but did some mods on the crossmember.

    This reminds me to do a post about Clifford Headers for the 215/223 in the 52 53
     
  4. craigtone
    Joined: Oct 19, 2008
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    Yes ... PLEASE DO! (Sorry to hijack)
     
  5. hoeymon
    Joined: Nov 12, 2009
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    hoeymon
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    Ms. Peanut didn't have anything......... Anyone else got any info? thanks again, Howie


    oh yeah, I was going to stick with the I6, 3speed, but the new house rule is that all new projects are wife-friendly. AKA auto trans, power brakes/steering. she mentioned A/C....... I told her that there is plenty of air flow coming in through the rust holes so no need to retrofit and ruin the car.........
     
  6. JeffB2
    Joined: Dec 18, 2006
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    from Phoenix,AZ

    The oil pan you want is the later Mustang Fox body dual sump this will clear the center crossmember on a 52-53,1954-56 require a front sump pan.
     
  7. gregk
    Joined: May 7, 2009
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    gregk
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    from BC Canada

    The double sump pan will clear the cross member but you won't be able to use the stock steering linkage. I retained the stock steering in my 54 but used an early mustang front sump pan.
    not sure what your plans are for the steering.
     
  8. Fuzzy Knight
    Joined: Jun 8, 2009
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    from Santee, Ca

    i put a 390 in my 53. I made a box in the fron crossmember for the stock 390 pan and that works good. Since I used an early round bell housing C6 it cleared the firewall nicely But later ******s with a sloped bell housing will have to have firewall clearance. I used stock exhaust manifolds which worked like it was made for it.
    As with many engine swaps it is a put it in take it back out deal.
    Also I dont know if you know it but it takes about 30 bolts and the whole front end comes off!! Fenders, faciea etc.
     
  9. old lady's mad
    Joined: Mar 18, 2007
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    old lady's mad
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    not done a 52 but if your motor mount plate on your frame is like my55 i used the 80 up truck mounts went right in the original bottom hole. who ever had done my swap before i bought the car made something with the original mounts and i didnt like it . i was going to post a pic. but i dont have a atachment option . ill see if i have them in photo bucket
     
  10. missysdad1
    Joined: Dec 9, 2008
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    old lady's mad: Use Image Shack. Please see Scott's (Skoh73) latest instructional post on posting photos on this site. I just bumped it to the top for you. It's easy, but you gotta know how it's done in order to do it. :)
     
  11. old lady's mad
    Joined: Mar 18, 2007
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    ok lets see if this works

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  12. Paul2748
    Joined: Jan 8, 2003
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    Brockman Mellow Tone (the muffler people) has a kit for putting a 302 into a 52/53 Ford. Don't know anything about it www.brockmancustomparts.com
     

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