Guys The ford 262 seems hard to find. Harder like a Jimmy 302. Why? Was it a bum seller? I have a 60 ford pickup I'd like the motor to swap the 215 or 223 but I'm in the Midwest. And, yes I know there's both a parts wanted and for sale forum and yes I know about the search button. Which, obviously is why I am now here, asking about the engine. Help me.
I don't think they made them for very long, no later than 64 for sure! Also, I don't think there is much for after market parts or replacement parts for that matter! You would be better off with a 223 or even better a later 300.
Kidz I kinda thought these were like chevrolet's 261 stove bolt 216,235,&261 lastly for about 4-5 years but were full oil pressure filtering and siamesed for cubes I guess. But with a tiny bit of ingenuity A.K.A. Cash, you can backward engineer them all the way into '30's cars & trucks. Which I'm doing, but I was under the assumption a 262 ford would be physically identical outside to a 223 or 215. Like heads interchange, oil pans....etc.
Skidmarks Will it bolt to the 3 on the tree of my f100? Will it set on the mounts the 223 did? If they did like GMC did to their stovebolts it should fit. With a pusher electric fan. Or fans.
Skidmarks Perfect. Well, I mean aside from your misfortune and all. Six cylinder multi carburetor hotrods have come back for a lot of difference but I'm going to stretch my neck out and say fuel cost is #1. I've always wanted V8 powered cars and such as I am a child of the '90's when gas was still a $ a gallon and all these aging 40 year old hipsters can barley afford a 1 way trip in the SUV to A&P ruled the roads with their 5.0 mustangs and 350 Iroc Camaro's. And I'm 16 stuck in an 81 dodge D-150 with a slant 6 & to make matters worse an A904 automatic. Now I'm buying up all the old stuff I can before it gets scrapped at $230 a ton. The 21st century is certainly NOT what they told me in school what is was gonna be. 3.0 liter engines getting the same HP as a 30 year old 6 Litre? As in a Chevrolet 400 or ford modified 400? And $4 a jar for mayonnaise? I think we've been had.
Skidmarks I live in southern Wisconsin which is seeded with 90% Dekalb genetic seed and 80% owned by large corporations that use GPS driven automated combinds. Headed west of camp Douglas where 90 splits off 94 is where the old farm culture is left, & they're already gone. Silo's fell into a barn off US 10 Coe county highway X... No real newspapers until you hit the cities... Maybe in souix falls...
262's were used in bigger trucks, they are the HD version. Accessories all interchange and they look mostly the same on the outside. Inside they are a different animal. Head has bigger valves, HD pistons, forged crank, etc, etc. You could really make one run with a bigger carb, and a better exhaust and distributor.....
the 262 was only made from 1961-1964 for use in Heavy Duty trucks and some industrial applications. You can get headers from Patriot and Clifford and an intake from Clifford, but parts are hard to come by.
Ya It's really sucky because the silos from the 30's fall in on 70 year old barns, tobacco sheds & the state will demolish the farmhouse if they're four laning an old US highway. If you head west pecks produce have these automatic waterers that roll and spray hundreds of acres and the hybrid seed company loves sticking their signs up all around the crop. I have to drive out of town to get 100% no ethanol gas, which is always premium grade and at its best 91 octane.
Seems to me you might want to consider a Ford 300 six.....7 main bearings, pulls like a freight train, SBF bellhousing and trans fit, is from the same period ('65 up) and parts and speed equipment are readily available.......... Ray
Ray Tell me more. All I know of the 4.9 inline six was it was owned by my cousin, we were both teenagers, it was 20 years ago and it belched fire. Until I was instructed on how to properly free dizzy advance weights and they required springs and I bought my first magnetic inductive timing light
how about a 65-up 240 cu. in. six ??....seven main bearings and all the goodies for a 300 cu. in. six will fit.....the 262 sounds like the"red headed step child".....even a 300 six would be a better choice.
Any gas engine Ford made was also used in industrial applications. A few years ago, there was a farm impliment junk yard west of Austin south of 90. The industrial engines often had heavy duty rods and sodium filed exhaust valves. A HD 300 six would last forever freshened with a mild cam and more carburetion.
262's were in half tons in '64, I have one. The main diff is the 262 has timing gears, not a chain, so the cam turns the other way. I found that out trying to use a 223 dist. in a 262. The fuel pump on mine is the same as a 223, in fact everything looks the same. Lots of them were in F500's and bigger around here.
Thanks for the replies fellas. I'm fairly ceartain that from what's been said so far that the 300 shares a lot with the 262 INSTEAD of the GM stovebolts having the same bellhousing, flywheel patterns and from mounting plates and for lack of technological language were simply stretched longer than the chevrolet's. What I like about GMC inlines is the pre-smog PCV for oil longevity and the fact that it's pretty hard to lose the oil cap. On a chain. So you could, say, sweat Tom Langdons '39 Chevy with the hood sides out. Because of interchangeability. Although I think that car is also converted to an open driveline, I'm funny/stupid/martyr and enjoy my vacuum assisted shifts and Patrick's has all the parts to change the rear gear & hoop ring to a much lower ratio so 75mph cruising in my 1940 shouldn't sound like 8,000 rpm. But I digress (there's more to it to making it safe with a 261 and a cam and aluminum pistons, 848 head and some other magic tattersfield carter w1's MSD & an HEI) So this is intended for a 1960 ford F-100. I wish to keep my 3 on the tree driveline. It's a wraparound rear & front windshield with a radio and a super deluxe heater with an Air box & other weird shit that makes it different from the standard heat/dryer vent/cardboard & staples defrost ducts. So all that talk. The big question. Will a 300 bolt to a stock 3 speed from 1960. If no, can it be made to be done by using a special bellhousing like the Mopar dudes in the 70's when they started making multiple patterned transmission end bellhousings so that they could swap an A833OD across all the bodies and years?
Find you a 300 6 out of a 1/2 ton 2 wheel drive Ford truck with a manual transmission so you can get the flywheel, clutch, and bellhousing. You will probably will have to drill, and tap the bolt holes in the bellhousing for the small bolt pattern transmission that Ford used in the early 60's. Then you can put the 300 6 using your 3 speed to locate it's position. You probably will have to adapt, or fab up some motor mounts. I did the same thing to my 68 F100 that originally had a 360 FE engine in it.
Thanks Yeah, I kinda figured there wouldn't be a A lot. I can put a electronic fuel injected one in there, but I'd need that a hall effect dizzy or a magnetic sensor, & flywheel & coil packs...,
With a 300 6, a Offenhouser intake, a 600 Holley, 3 speed, 3.0 gear, and 235/75/15 tires it get's 17 MPG at 70+ MPH.
The 3 speed....can it be the one installed in the truck from the factory? You all have inspired me. When I was a teenager I had an 81 dodge d-150, without power steering (it was one of those auction trucks from the highway dept. anyway when I converted the man from the boneyard pulled the steering box from a similar year Chevrolet truck, told me they're both a Saginaw so same reason does wheels fit dodge etc) How far back does the I beam interchangeability work? See, the reason I need all this help with it is because it was the first restoration I had ever did, although I used a 57 front clip. But all the real hard work is done from the factory, antenna placement, super deluxe heater, just knob after knob after knob. When I bought it, the guy said he'd hold or for me. He lives in a remote section of Iowa and has the space and is a good guy, and I will pay him but it has become a lower priority type thing. It has a motor in it. I have a six cylinder Edsel 223 if this motor is ruined. Or soon will have a 300, but what he did was turn it into a roller. It was void most of its frontal sheet metal, sparce the hood @ core support. I don't need a passinger side door to drive the back roads here. But he had it on the spindles on cinder bricks, and put a newer I beam on it so it would be a roller and took it out of the weeds & into his barn. So what years do 60 king pin I beams interscale?
You can use the transmission that was installed in your truck from the factory, if it has the small bolt pattern like the transmission shown on the right, some of the later ford transmissions also have the same small bolt pattern drilled in them along with the later model large bolt pattern like in the transmission shown on the left.
Well that is very Mopar-like. The 60's require transmission specific bellhousing's and then by the 70's it was universal.
Masterdeluxe, if you want to put a 300 six in your 1960 F100 try to find the bellhousing and front motor mount from a F350 and larger truck from 1965 or 1966, they still had the old straight axle style frame and should just about be a bolt in.
Thank ya bluebush. Going hunting with my wallet, just have sooooo many aluminum engine deals going on. Station wagon and I just can't say no to a hi compression or turbo .
No luck. So far China bought up all the old heavy metal for the Olympics 4 years ago. Going to go north soon.
Master deluxe, You may want to look at using a late model Ford M5 ,5 speed behind the Ford 300. I've got this set up in my d.d. 93 F150. With 5th. gear O/d I can pull up to 18 mpg without much effort. Good luck with your project, .................Jack
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