whos done it?looking to change up the trans on my y block.which ones easier to do..cheaper...which one tougher.i gotta get this truck trans outta here.anyhelp or info.thanks
I am thinking about doing the same... I have a 292 in a '23T with a automatic out of a '55 or '56 Ford. It has a weird torque convertor and part of that breaks if you dont pull the tranny off the engine the right way. Mine was broken when I bought the tranny, and I am still looking for that damn part. If I dont find one soon I'm going to get rid off the slush box,and I'll use the T5 that was in my G/F 's Falcon. At least I know thats a good tranny... If we are both going to do this we should compare notes...
right on..ive done some looking on the y blocks.com site they have a conversion set..but i know people with machine shops..so i can do a lot of that shit.
I want to use as many Factory parts as possible to keep the cost down... Hopefully The T5 will bolt up to a Y block bellhousing somehow, that way I dont have to worry about the flywheel,starter, and throwout bearing/fork.
my friend put a t5 behind his supercharged y-block..i have pics of the adapter somewhere..kartbreaker,i'll get the info for you if you want...
I've got a 3 speed toploader from a 68 Ranchero behind my 292 right now (thanks to Metalshapes, and to Jerry for showing me how to get it in there) and there are 2 sets of bolt patterns on it, one for the earlier bellhousings and one for later ones. Not sure when they changed the pattern, but keeping both for a period of time seemed to me to be the only "better idea" I've ever seen Ford pull off. So, I guess if you can find a 4 speed top loader with 2 bolt patterns on the tranny case (to where it would bolt to the bellhousing) you should be all set, and it would probably be pretty cheap to do.
well, I think the best route to go on that is to buy a new TH350 from summit and get one of those super nostalgic, brushed stainless lokar shifters, then you could get a new zz4 crate motor and put some Y block valve covers on it...wouldn't that be the coolest?
I doubt a T5 will survive long behind a torquey Y Block. Event the best of them is only rated for around 300 lbs/ft of torque. Any of the 60's dual pattern 3 and 4 spds are a direct bolt up as well as some 4 spd/OD versions. The older single pattern 4 spd usually has a RUG as the start of the ID tag, those are also a bolt-on.
"Torquey" is an understatement. I was dreading putting the 2.90 gears in my 55 from the 3.89's that were in it. Now that it is in and I've got it all squared away, there isn't a HUGE difference.
The guy that lucky7 was talkin about ran a T-5 behind his supercharged 312. I think he was running 12s with that car. He did blow up two of them. However, he blew them up as he shifted into third, he said that both times he let the clutch out too early and the gears weren't meshed all the way. He said he never had any problems with them other than that....I think a T-5 would be fine behind a y block, I'm putting one in my stude...
Not all the toploaders are a direct bolt in. Some will have to have a little turned off the OD of the snout piece where it slides into the bellhousing. I can't remember the amount, but it's probably in the .040" range. Just measure the opening in your bell and compare to the mating area of teh trans. Any machine shop can turn it down a little. There was also some reason I didn't use the Pressure plate and clutch disk from the y-block and used the one off the 302 that the toploader was from. Maybe some kind of interference or something. Or maybe the y-block was a 10" and the 302 a 11". Been just a little too long since I had things laid out next to each other.
yeah...im gonna be putting whatever trans i run through hell.i also think that the 4spd would be more stout...after all im not running some wussy little stude in someones grandmas wagon.plus its not like you can find tremecs laying around.
As I understand, the four speed transmissions from FE powered '62-'64 full sized Fords and Mercurys are the direct bolt ins for the Y-block with its original bellhousing. Has anyone seen/heard of someone using the newer Tremec five speed? They're supposedly stronger than the World Class T-5. Plus, they have the added benefit of a forward (more forward than the T-5) shifter location.
chris...the tremecs could work somehow...because people have put mustang t5s on yblocks....drgnwgn289 just picked up a tremec..to put on his 289 stude...but hes gonna have to do some machining.
Seems there is a little confusion here...tremec makes a five speed but the also made some T-5s. The tremec T-5 is the exact same dimensionally as a borg T-5 but the internals are better, the shifing mechanism is a little better and they have a different overdrive ratio, but still they are only rated at 300 ft lbs. The other tremec 5 speed ( i think its called a 3350) has some ungodly torque rating, but it also has a price to match.... the wussie stude v8 in grandma's wagon is gonna put the hurt on your little puss-Y-block at the drags next year beeeotch.
I've heard that if you use the rear part of a T-5 out of an S-10 it moves the shifter closer to the main part.
hummmm.......ill take that bet...and ill up you by whoopin up on that little stupidbaker power t c-dan thats in the not so far future. whoop!! whoop!! p.s disclaimer: hotrods are made to be shown not raced...we dont want a bad rep!
I put an s10 T5 behind my Healthy Hemi-powered Model A coupe. It survived a couple of tough weekends of drag racing. I think it will handle a y-block with no problem but I do know it will shell if you screw up a speed shift.
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