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Technical Ford 9" rear end value

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  1. JD Miller
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    What the value $$ of a Ford 9" ?..... i.e., what would you pay max?

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  2. deathrowdave
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    $100.00
     
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  3. oldiron 440
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    Full size 9” could be the 9 1/8” or whatever size it was.
     
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  4. gimpyshotrods
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    It depends on the local market.

    $100-450.
     
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  5. DDDenny
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    Could be a 9&3/8"..............not much!
     
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  6. Since it is a coil spring rear, it came out of a later Torino, Galaxie, etc. and has a pretty wide WMS to WMS. Ratio probably 2.75 to 3.00. A 9" center section has some value, a 9-3/8" less. Bottom line- if you are selling it, the worth is what you will take for it and if buying what you will pay for it.

    If the tag is still on it, a lot more info can be had.
     
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  7. RodStRace
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    Another thing that would affect price is knowing exactly what YMM it is. As has been seen here lately, Ford ran that assembly for many years and there are a bunch of changes over it's life. Trying to pin down what fits and what parts to get can be a task. @Bangingoldtin has got a big bit of that, but the counterperson is going to need exact YMM.
     
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  8. squirrel
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    before I'd pay money, I'd have to have a use for it...and I don't have a use for that one, so it's not worth anything to me.

    Someone who's working on a 50s-60s pickup might find that that rear will fit, and might pay some money for it. It could be worth a few hundred bucks to someone who needs it. But that person is hard to find.
     
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  9. JD Miller
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    Dude has it priced at $450 on the pictured above located in Gooberville. I was thinking that is a laughable price.
    Use to be able to get one at pick-a -part for $40 bucks
     
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  10. lostone
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    Unless it's a posi....

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  11. MMM1693
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    There is nothing cheap about rebuilding a 9in anymore. 100.00 maxIMO
     
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  12. 1934coupe
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    What's it worth question is akin to a fishing trip.

    Pat
     
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  13. JD Miller
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    [QUOTE="Bangingoldtin, post: 15321258, member: 357034"...............A 9" center section has some value, a 9-3/8" less........................[/QUOTE]

    Curious , How do you quickly determine if its a 9-3/8" vs 9" ..... if your gettin' at a junk yard in the dirt?

    Can you only tell its a 9-3/8" from inside and pulling out the carrier?

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  14. squirrel
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    it's a 9", it doesn't have the curved rib that a 9-3/8 has

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  15. ^^^^ What Jim said. The tag will also tell you.
     
  16. squirrel
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    The tag will only tell you if it's there, which it usually isn't
     
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  17. DDDenny
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    I knew that............right after you reminded me!:confused:
    And for those that don't know and think "they must be stronger because they are bigger" keep in mind that AFAIK, the aftermarket has near zero support for the 9&3/8" rearend.
     
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  18. squirrel
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    The thing about the 9" rear is that very few of them were heavy duty units, most were open 28 spline with highway gears. And the width and mounting is wrong, and the brakes need to be rebuilt or changed, etc. So you end up replacing most of it when you put it in a hot rod. That's why they're not worth very much, and why so many guys pay $2k or more for a complete 9" rear set up to work in their car, instead of buying a used one.
     
  19. Not all Ford axle housings are created equal... The coil spring and pickup housings are the stoutest OEM ones and least likely to bend under severe use, but most will need narrowing for use under a HAMB-era car plus the removal/relocation of any bracketry. These are a good choice if you're planning on an axle housing mounted rear sway bar, I've seen the lesser housings bend with a rear bar.

    Seeing how you can now buy a brand-new 58" WMS-to-WMS housing for $400 that just needs your brackets installed, these have become less valuable. And as has been pointed out, the diff will likely be a tall open ratio with 28 spline axles, an additional upgrade cost. If the drum brakes are present and complete for rebuilding (and usable for your use), that can add value. New drum kits are $350 and up.

    IMO, to the right guy this may be worth as much as $350, but personally I wouldn't give over $200 for it.
     
  20. DDDenny
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    When I was collecting parts for my roadster project in the late 90's I ended up with three 9&3/8" units as a package deal, looked just like the one in the photo, and, only because I didn't even know they existed, I think I paid $50 for all three, pulled them apart to I.D. and blew all the bracketry off one to use, then found out they weren't a nine inch and not too desirable, ended up giving them to a friend of mine.
     
  21. lostone
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    As stated above, if your building some power to put into the front of this your basically using just the bare housing and bare 3rd member case.

    You would want to upgrade to at least 31 spline axles (so those stock ones are worthless to you), a new posi unit and gears ( so the open diff is again worthless to you). I'm betting that the brakes are worn out so again that's worthless so again bare housing, bare backing plates and bare center section.

    200 bucks max to me...

    ...
     
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  22. THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER
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    I happily paid $125 for a Merc housing that has 28 spline axles and an open 3.0 gear; since I had planned to narrow it for my Anglia width was of no consequence.
     

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  23. partsdawg
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    Sold 5 last year @50.00 each.
    Got them for free from a old collector of stuff and he loaded them on my trailer.
    All were late 60's car, all had highway gears, all were locked up
    Sold them all to a kid who was going to resell them and make a mint.
    Don't think he had a clue what he was getting into but he knew 9" were worth wayyyyy more than I was asking.
     
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  24. JD Miller
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    Sounds like the hillbillies 'round here. LOL . They "know" their roached, rusted, junk been layin' in da mud for 50 years is "worth wayyyy more" than gold... LOL ! Yes Sir-ree !
     
  25. Bearing Burner
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    What's the least you'd take ?
     
  26. 2Blue2
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    Don’t lowball me, I know what I got!
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  27. alanp561
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    Moser 3.50 posi, just the chunk, $1700 in E. Tennessee. $600 just south of me in Georgia, looks just like the one you have pictured. $500 for one that's been shortened, and $50 just for a housing.
     
  28. DDDenny
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    A third member out of a standard nine inch rear will fit in the 9&3/8" housing.
    The nine inch housing requires some grinder work for the 9&3/8" third member to fit in.
     
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  29. lumpy 63
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    Also the big car housings with coil springs are flattened on top of the tubes...makes em pretty much junk.
     
  30. lumpy 63
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    I cut the housing ends off the last one I had and used them and the big brakes on a housing I narrowed.
     

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