id say 3-600, depending on model and condition. im no expert but would like a period one for my '69 F250.
I’m not real good on values on older trucks. I thought that bed was a custom bed made from 59 vintage beds. Some on here are indicating that it is a factory bed. If it is it would be very rare. That doesn’t always translate to valuable. As said some of the cab parts have value. But if that is a factory optioned bed, the truck as a whole would be most valuable to a collector. He would not be interested in the 428, if it is one. The winch and bumper could bring $750 or so, depending on conditions. That winch is still being sold new for around $1750. Hope this helps. Bones
Those C4 heads would be an upgrade over the later p***enger car heads, CJ heads excluded. There is an ***embly date on the block, it is upside down on a little pad above the oil filter. 428's were introduced in the 1966 model year so that may help you narrow things down. The 428 casting cores have also been used in 390 blocks, so that does not neccessarily indicate it is a 428, nor do ALL 428's have the large letter cast into the back of the block. The old measure the stroke thru the spark plug hole will give you the stroke, but the 3.98 stroke is also shared with the 410. There you have a few ways to help rule some things out, but without pulling a head you really can't tell what displacement you really have. The imbalanced flywheel should hopefully indicate the 3.98 stroke, but they will bolt right on any FE crank.
I don't know if that is the 8,000# winch, or the 10,000#. The 10,000 versions of this wince are hard to come by. I have an 8,000# in excellent condition, and I would not let it go for less than $700.00. They are much tougher than the newer winches. I note in the ad that the person converted the original engine to a 428. That would explain why the engine would still have the original heads and would still have a 2 barrel intake manifold. I have never seen a stock 428 with a 2 barrel manifold. I can't imagine spending that much to build a 428 not go all the way to install a 4 barrel carb. The 4 barrel manifolds were not that hard to come by, as they were common on the 390 engine. I have seen 428s with the 2 bolt exhaust manifolds. The 2 bold manifolds can be used in the full sized cars and trucks. Both of my 428s have the CJ heads because they come out of a Comet and a Mustang which require the manifolds that use the bolts on the side of the exhaust flange. I feel that the only easy way to check the stroke, would be to use a piece of flexible plastic rod in the spark plug hole. The stroke of the 428 crank is so much greater, almost 1/2 inch, than the 352, that this check should easily show if the crank has a longer stroke. 352 stroke =3.5 in, 428 stroke = 3.984 in. In round numbers, that is 1/2 inch difference in stroke. I have to admit, that it would not make a lot of economic sense to build a 428 that way. It would have been easier to find the complete 428 and stuff it in. Bob
That's the 8000#, they are an excellent winch. I have owned mine for over 35 years. The only maintenance I have had to do, was routine. I had to change the brushes once, and those are the only parts I had to buy. Bob
Yes that's a factory bed. So was a 1 ton LWB step side or ( flareside) for the Ford Terminology purists. They are somewhat rare as most 1 tons were cab & ch***is or flat beds. That's likely a 352 but anything is possible. I know a guy that claims he put a 302 Chevy in a pulp wood truck. Also there's a tall tale of a 428 Shelby engine used in a junkyard push truck. Most of these tales wind up being ......Horse****. Chris, Maybe to change direction a little... What about a 352? Personally I like them. With today's gas and a 65-66 pick up truck compression ratio.... a 352 with a intake, headers and a mild street cam would make a great engine for a late 50's pick up.
Cool, that’s a new one on me, and I been looking at Ford trucks for a spell. That tool box is probably a factory option also. I have seen them on other trucks. That truck must have been ordered with every option available in 1965. Bones
Could a 352 be bored to a 427 or 428,if it does not have the 410/428 balancer it definately does not have that crank.
IMHO, the truck is way too nice to part out. It's a solid, 50 year old running truck, that is uncommon as far as factory features. If we keep parting out 40's-60's cars and trucks for their "good parts", we're loosing a lot of good, future projects. Just because the sum of it's parts are worth more than the truck's price doesn't mean it has to be bought to be parted out. If it's truly a 428, I'd say buy it and look for a 352 to swap in. Then sell the winch/bumper if it's that valuable (to pay for the 352). Bolt on a stock bumper and sell off the truck. Isn't there an 'easy' way to determine if the engine is truly a 428? I'm so used to SBC's and looking at block casting #'s to determine it's origin.
Guys, you cannot bore a 352 to a 428! Don’t do it! There is not enough meat in the 352 casting to go to 428 bore and still have enough strength to survive. There are a few non 428 FE blocks that CAN be boredto a428, but even they should be sonic checked. The core shift was all over the place on those FEs. One of the blocks that people bore with some success to 428 is the 391 Truck block, and I add sometimes. You also have to bush the distributor on theses. There are also some thick core FE blocks out there that WILL take a 428 bore, but they are rare and hard to indentify. If you want some power out of your FE, stroke a 390 to 445. Very common and tons of power and it will last! Edit: If you try to bore a 352 to 427 size, your cylinders will have holes into the water jacket. Bones
Back in the early '80's I bought a 1964 F-350 with a 9' flare side bed, single 19" rear wheels with a 292 four speed. The truck was bought new by, Burkett Firestone, a tire dealer with that bed. so yes it was an option and didn't require dual rear wheels either.
All 3.98 stroke FEs use a balance weight on the flywheel and a nuteral front balancer here is the CJ package notice non weighted balancer non CJ do not use the balancer spacer. https://www.ebay.com/i/182763286633?chn=ps so look at the Flywheel.
That's the problem, it is too nice of a truck to part out. And honestly most of the truck wouldn't get used. However, it really isn't valuable either. It's been on my local CL for about 6 months, and the price has gotten lower everytime he relist the truck. So what do you do with it? It is certainly worth more in parts than as a truck, but it's also a ton of work to part a rig out...trust me I've done my fair share.
And to sum things up- I would love a 428, 406 or 410. Even a 390. Back when I messed with a lot of FE's in high school, you could go to Pull N Save and yank a complete, probably running 390 out of something for around 100.00. Now I see guys asking 500-1,000.00 for cores. I've been out of the FE game too long I guess. If I do the FE route in my 57, I want to build a real runner. And a 352 or 360 won't be my choice. I almost want to buy this thing just to see what the engine really is. I will either luck out and it will be a worthy engine, or worse case I will clean the truck up and send it down the road. I guess it will all depend on the seller and I coming up with a price we can both live with
Chris, I just went to your cities Craiglist and found out he’s asking $1000 or best offer. If that wasn’t half way across the nation , I’d be all over that. Somebody is “sleeping in Seattle”! You could get most of your investment back by selling the winch! Nothing ever comes up like that around here! I bet if you listed it over on the Ford Truck forum it would sell in a day! Bones
It may be a nice truck but anything spent on it would be money wasted IMHO and not recoverable easily. Yes there is a small amount of larger pick-up enthusiasts who would be interested but getting estimated value is sometimes very hard to do. If you had a working ranch I could see it. Taking a chance on the engine if you getting it cheap enough is always good if you have the room. There looks to be a lot of items to part out out if that's for you...good luck.
I think the truck is worth a $1000. even if it has a stock 352. I have a similar one ton flatbed in my hoard. I installed a 33o FE out of a school bus in it. Those 6 hole rims are not my cup of tea.
Yeah...it's cheap. But...it's just not anything I want to deal with unless it had something I needed. I certainly don't need another truck, let alone another truck blown apart in my driveway. I made him an offer yesterday he said he would think on. So we will see. I could sell the winch and tailgate and some odds and ends and have a free truck...but I would still have to own and store the truck
This is my go to site for FE info. http://www.fordfe.com/? It has been a while since I logged on and it seems like they changed formats, hope it's still as good as it used to be.
Sell the winch, but keep the tail gate! Those things are getting hard to find. I still have one that my Dad took off our 1959 Ford 1/2 ton back in 1959, up in the attic. ... Have to own it and keep it???..... wished I had your troubles! Lol Bones
Try to get hold of Forest Auto wrecking in Lewiston. They closed their doors awhile back. Maybe you can grab a 428 out of there if you can talk to the right person. https://www.google.com/amp/www.spok...orest-auto-parts-closes-fate/?amp-content=amp
An easy way to guess is to look at the casting numbers on the heads. Here is a reference and that is of course only if no one has changed the heads. https://www.enginelabs.com/engine-tech/engine/reference-ford-ohv-cylinder-head-casting-numbers/
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