Lucky you ! It's a great foundation to build on, or if the bearings and all look good run it as is. Either way it's going to make your f-100 haul the mail.
Well, here’s the end of this thread. My friend Chris picked up the 65 yesterday. He’s not sure what he’s going to do with it, but he agreed it’s way too nice of a truck to part out. He has a fresh 390 for it and mentioned push truck, so....
Looks to me like the owner said in the ad, "Original 352 rebuilt and converted to 428." It doesn't say anything claiming to be a 428 was swapped in but maybe as was mentioned before, the rotating ***embly was switched. I remember articles on how to do it back in the 70's.
A steel crank is external balanced cast cranks are internal balanced. Basically hi po engines are steel cranks
When it comes to FE's there is ZERO truth to this statement. Lots of 428's were built with cast cranks and all 3.98" stroke (410 and 428 ci) FE's were externally balanced. Most (if not all) 427's and most 361 and 391 FT's were built with forged steel cranks (3.78" and 3.5" stroke) and they were all internally balanced. And I don't think anyone will confuse a 361 for a Hi-Po engine.
428 SCJ crankshafts may have been nodular iron and that would be good as it's going to get for 428's.
Ford was never big on forged cranks in their p***enger cars; the 289 Hi-po, early hi-po FEs up to the 427, and anything with BOSS in it's name got forged, everything else got cast iron and some few got nodular cast iron. With the exception of the Y-blocks, broken Ford cranks are fairly rare...
For way too many years I was a mechanic for the local Ford dealership. To make a long story short a customer brought in his sons Mustang with a 428. His son had the engine apart when it was put back together it had a bad vibration. I took it apart took the rotating ***embly to a machine shop to be balanced. It had a smooth spacer at the front of the crank. It had a cast crank which was externally balanced. I ordered the correct spacers and the vibration was gone. The smooth spacer was for a steel crank not a cast crank
All production 289s had/have cast iron cranks....none were steel from Ford. The only factory FEs to get steel cranks were the 427s and 361/391 truck motors. Sent from my SM-G950U using The H.A.M.B. mobile app
The cast 428 SCJ crank had a special "hatchet" counter-balanced crank spacer because of the Lemans cap screw rods, but all other FEs had the standard FE smooth spacer, steel crank or cast.
Boss 351's had nodular iron cranks. The 391 truck engine has a forged crank and is a good choice for a high winding 429 although it does need machine work to make it work in a regular p***enger car block.
How do you get a FE crank to fit in a 429 all factory 3.98 stroke cranks were cast 428 CJ motors got a front balance weight because of heavier rods standard 428 no weight all had flywheel weight.. Only some 427s had forged cranks no other FEs in p***enger cars were forged no 2 7/8 stroke factory cranks were forged.
The 289 271 horsepower “ High Performance “ cranks had different alloy the all the other 289s. Iirc, they also had a extra slinger weight behind the front vibration dampener, to help with balance. Bones
The 428CJs did not have a front counterweight, only the Super CJ, because they had the heavier cap screw rods. The CJ rods were also used on police 428s and '68 427s.
Same 1M crank as a standard 289....out of the same pile. They checked/tested them for hardness only and should have a telltale mark on them from that test....other than that same-same. The little slinger counter weight was to help balance because the hp rods have 3/8" bolts and were slightly heavier than standard 289 rods because of the bigger bolts and also because there is more material where the rods were spotfaced rather than broached for the better bolts. Sent from my SM-G950U using The H.A.M.B. mobile app
I pulled this tag off the 67 T bird engine that I bought at the setting and rotting estate auction. The engine is not stuck. However im not gonna try and start it. I intend to pull it and tear it down to at least the short block. then maybe a good cleanup and new gaskets and fire it up.
Good find, they are a great engine. From my experience with them, if you are not planning a rebuild, I would plan on changing the timing chain and cam pulley. I own two of them, and even though they weren't high mileage engines, the timing chain was loose on both, and some nylon teeth were missing on one of the cam sprockets. The other thing to remember, is that this is an externally balanced engine, and that finding a standard flywheel may be a problem. Do you have a plan for it? Bob
I do have a stick flywheel. Not any real plans other than pull it. tear it down. re***emble and get it running on a stand. Might keep it. and might sell it.
That 428 standard fly wheel is a rare find! Most 428s came automatic. They bring a good price. But there is a trick the balancer sure do, they take the 28 ounces out of the opposite side of a 390 standard fly wheel. I think it’s 28 ounces and I have not done this, just heard about it. But it sounds like it would work. Bones
Ok I have what I think is a 410 flywheel. should work on a 428? the first picture is a stock FE flywheel. the rest are of the oddball FE flywheel I have. Thirty some years ago I bought a junk 67 ford truck. Paid $75 for it. T he mains and thrust bearing where shot. It ran when pull started but knocked & vibrated something awful. Poor ole 352 the crank went back and forth a 1/4 inch. and we found this flywheel on it. only standard FE flywheel I ever seen like it?
I don’t know what it is, but it has a casting date of 64, two years before the 410 or 428. If I remember correctly the 428 fly wheel has a larger “ counter weight “ than that. I think it’s about six/ eight inches long, but similar in depth and shape as the one you have. Could fe an FT flywheel. Bones
Yep I see the 64 cast date. However no pickups came with a FE before 66. and all big trucks used a large bell and 14 inch clutch. It certainly was out of balance on the 352 we took it from.
I thought the FE premiered in the pick up line in 1965, but not sure. If they came out in early 65, a 64 casting date would fit..... but still don’t know why the weight! I have some feelers out to some of my FE friends. Bones
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