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found me a 429 with a c6

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by rikkitabaras, Nov 3, 2009.

  1. rikkitabaras
    Joined: Oct 8, 2009
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    rikkitabaras
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    from dallas tx

    Hey guys found me a 429 with a c6 for my project 58 f100, my question is the 72 429 a good motor and what is the hp on it?
     
  2. FrozenMerc
    Joined: Sep 4, 2009
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    '72 429 car motors were rated at 212 Hp and 8.5:1 Compression. Emissions had really started to neuter these motors by '72.
     
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  3. rikkitabaras
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    rikkitabaras
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    from dallas tx

    Dam!! I guess I will have to do some work to get it going in the hp range!!

    thanks frozenmerc
     
  4. holeshot
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    holeshot
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    hey RIKIT... don't believe the 212 h.p. ****. ford had to, well (lie) about the H.P. the man was clamping down on detroit. any 429 ford has tons of H.P. and torque! O YEA. you couldn't have made a better choice! and U know the C6 was fords best AUTO back in the day. call me POP...or the old FART.
     
  5. FrozenMerc
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    Holeshot is right on. Take the emissions **** off, Put a good Holley 4-barrel and intake on along with a set of headers and you have yourself an easy 350 hp, 450 ft-lb. torque monster.
     
  6. good choice ,be sure to check out www.460ford.com , lots of info available.
     
  7. rikkitabaras
    Joined: Oct 8, 2009
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    rikkitabaras
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    from dallas tx

    Hell yeah!! On my first 58 I had a 429 with the same ****** and it hauled ***, I even beat cars and other trucks that were hopped up at the 1/4 mile back in the day! Yeah I was wandering about the 212? I know for a fact those motors are big and had big hp.

    Thanks Holeshot!
     
  8. kwoodyh
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    Great motor and excellent transmission! Holeshot was correct when he said....

    "hey RIKIT... don't believe the 212 h.p. ****. ford had to, well (lie) about the H.P. the man was clamping down on detroit. any 429 ford has tons of H.P. and torque! O YEA".
     
  9. Bob Dobolina
    Joined: Jul 27, 2006
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    change the factory timing chain & gear. Replace with a 69-70 429 setup. Early gears are "straight up". 72 & later have about 8 deg retard built in.
     
  10. rikkitabaras
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    rikkitabaras
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    from dallas tx

    *****in Dobolina! I will do just that since I'm going to open her up just to check things out.
     
  11. Jim Dieter
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    Good call...I was just writing that I had heard something like that..I had a 70 in a truck that was a rocket.

     
  12. rikkitabaras
    Joined: Oct 8, 2009
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    rikkitabaras
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    from dallas tx

    You can say that again Jim, yeah my old truck pushed me back in the seat, then I was 17 at time and winning races at our local back road in Brownsville TX on Sunday afternoons. Dam I had great times there!!
     
  13. robt500
    Joined: Nov 6, 2006
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    from Lex, KY

    My dad had one with a Holley and headers on it in a pea green Lincoln Mk3 when i was a child. I was young but it felt like it would "haul the mail" and my dad liked it enough to put some parts on it so...
     
  14. The '72 regular p***enger engines use a unique-to-that-year head casting, the D2VE, which is unsuitable for most applications. The combustion chamber has virtually no quench area whatsoever and with the average street engine, they tend to have a lot of detonation issues. The casting was replaced for '73 with the D3VE head, which has a chamber design that is very similar to the '68-'70 casting numbers, except deeper, and therefore larger.

    If you intend to rebuild the engine & replace the heads, it's no big deal. If it's a smokin' deal, you might be OK, and it is possible to swap either earlier or later heads onto the engine without much problem. However, be aware that the D2VE heads are avoided like the plague by most knowledgeable 460 engine builders, except for very limited, specific applications. It is certainly possible to use the D2VEs for normal street running, by severely retarding the total timing and using a very slow rate of advance...which somewhat defeats the purpose of a high performance engine.

    As Bob D. points out, the '72-up timing sets are 8 deg. retarded, in part to compensate for the D2VE chamber design. Switching to an earlier timing set will lower the torque peak about 800 rpm, which is generally a good thing; but I probably would not do it with the D2VE heads unless you are prepared to run 93 octane at the minimum.

    Depending on when exactly the engine was built, it is possible that it will have D0VE heads or D3VE heads, which are both much better choices. Hopefully the one you have found will have them instead.

    If you go to the mentioned site http://www.460ford.com/forum/ & do a search you will find many threads referring to these D2VE heads.

    The casting numbers are located on the top of the third exhaust port (from the left) on these heads.
     
  15. rikkitabaras
    Joined: Oct 8, 2009
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    rikkitabaras
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    from dallas tx

    Homespun is there a number on the heads or some Identifiable notch or shape on them without opening the motor. If not when I open the motor, what will I have to look for? To tell what heads they are.
     
  16. Yep... ;)
     

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