It's not only the weight and length, but many shipping companies will want the frame on some sort of skid or crated some how and may want it "forkliftable". You're not talking cross country so I would do exactly as chevyfordman did. In the long run it will probably be cheaper.
Jim, question --> What is illegal about this? 8 foot bed with tailgate down (+2 more feet). It was stated above that the frame is actually 14 feet. So you would have about 4 feet out of the back of the truck. I like chevyfordman's wood cradle. You could probably just build something less complicated. As long as the front is supported over the cab. Wood running along the rails is not needed.
Consider a 2k mile trip in a pickup will be maybe 450-500 in fuel. 3/4 hotel rooms, food. 4/5 days away from what you currently do. Unless it’s a hard to find frame, I’d be looking a bit closer to home. 30 years ago I may have done it though.
I don't know how you do your math but, the bare frame is 16 feet long. If you happen to have a long bed Chevy 1500, that bed is only 8 feet 2 inches long. A standard bed is a half inch shy of 6 feet. No one in their right mind is going down the road with half or better the length of a load hanging out the back end of the truck. Not even with a flag which is mandatory for anything protruding past the end of the body of the truck more than 3 feet and lights which are mandatory for nighttime travel.
I also like @chevyfordman 's idea including the side braces which keep the back of the frame from leaving the truck in case of a broken strap. However, I believe that is a '32 frame which is 4 feet shorter than the frame being discussed. From the Chevy specs, the length of the vehicle with bumpers is 16' 1/2". (Texas Transportation Code 621.206) A vehicle or combination of vehicles may not carry a load that extends more than three feet beyond its front or, except as permitted by other law, more than four feet beyond its rear. business licenses Laws on Rear Overhang for Pickup Truck Loads Reviewed by: Michelle Seidel, B.Sc., LL.B., MBA· For the safety of other drivers, as well as the load you are hauling, there are various laws in place concerning how far items can overhang the rear end of a truck. In many cases, loads that do overhang must be marked to alert other drivers. Failure to do so can result in a traffic ticket or fine. How Far Can Something Hang Out of a Truck? According to the United States Department of Transportation's Federal Size Regulations law, cargo can overhang a vehicle in the front by 3 feet, on the side by 4 inches and in the rear by 4 feet. When Do I Need a Red Flag on the Load? If cargo overhangs by more than 4 feet, it must be properly marked. The load must be marked on its side with a red side marker lamp indicating its maximum overhang. A marker lamp is a lamp mounted on the side of a vehicle as near as practicable to the front and rear of the vehicle. It provides light to the side to indicate the overall length of the motor vehicle. In addition, the load must be marked by two lamps to the rear of the vehicle indicating its longest overhang point and by two red reflectors indicating the rear-most maximum width. Any time the use of headlights is required by law, the red marker lamps must also be illuminated.
Given the number of times in my life I have been hit from behind by an inattentive driver, I am reluctant to ever have anything out past the end of the bed when driving a truck. I double-extra would not want that item to be a frame. I don't want to have to worry about that punching through the back of the cab. I have been the crumple-zone several times. How do you think I got the nickname?
I've delivered lots of 32/34 frames with my pickup with a 6 ft box plus the tailgate. There was always about 4 ft hanging out past the tailgate. They were strapped in good with a red flag and I never got bothered. When I was building the chassis for Lone Star Classics in Fort Worth I'd stack them 4 or 5 high, strap them together and tie them really good in the box and stuff the chassis parts inside the frame and in the cab and head south. Never had a problem or got stopped. That was with a 3/4 ton pickup. I lived a little more dangerously back then.
Texas State Law Regarding Vehicle Extended Loads In general - the maximum allowable overhang allowed from a vehicle is four feet - it can be less in some states. A full size truck bed is usually 8 feet. The end of the truck is usually considered the end of the truck bed or factory rear bumper. That means a 14 foot frame in a 8 foot truck bed laid out flat would have 6 feet of overhang. Some states require that you have the factory tailgate up or you will get a ticket. Rental vehicles are required by law to enter weigh & inspection stations that are open in just about every state. If you rent a pickup truck - the rental contract may require you have the tailgate up at all times as a condition of the rental. Jim
@Voh Your state law says that you are not allowed to run with your tailgate down UNLESS your load exceeds the length of the bed! In which case if it sticks out further than 4 feet it must have a flag that is 16 square inches & be either red, orange or yellow. This is basically the same in 90% of the rest of the states in the country. I am sure there are a few minor exceptions, but I don't have the time to waste researching each. The law also states that if you drive after dark, you must have a taillight out at the end. This is No big deal as magnetic taillights that tie into your truck taillights are cheap from places like Harbor Fright! It is not rocket science & people that actually do it, don't worry that much about it. There is also a BIG difference between Commercial & Non-Commercial laws, folks that know this, just KNOW this! Going & getting your own frame means you are NOT under commercial DOT regulations & what I posted above is the law you would follow! God Bless & Merry Christmas Bill https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum...ar-transport-hauling-open-or-enclosed.614419/
I'll shut up after this post but I just today was talking to a customer who had a Boling Brothers model A frame shipped from the west coast to the east coast for $700 which I think is reasonable?
By the time you take the time off work , trailer / truck rental , fuel , hotel , food , piss jugs etc . $700 bucks is a steel !! When I picked up my merc about 13 hours driving round trip with a ford f150 , and trailer I had about $500 bucks in fuel plus coffees and food into the excursion . I was quoted 750 for a tilt n load to pick it up . while the trip was an adventure , I could have missed it with no hard feelings .
But what about all the fun with a road trip? Add that up and subtract it from the expense…..pocket the profit! Bones
Just to put stuff in perspective, back in the early days of the inter web, I sold a Diesel engine to a guy in Maine, then a guy in Ohio asked to buy it. I asked the guy in Ohio what was wrong with his engine, he said the top end. I asked the guy in Maine what his engine problem was, he said lower end! Well I traded both engines for the delivery, plus toted a 1956 International pick up to Ohio! I paid my sons money to get off of the Fire Dept and we saw friends alone the way, plus bought stuff to resale alone the way and got drunk! Still showed up back in Oklahoma with a large profit! So never discount a road trip! Bones
Outside of going though Denver traffic that is a great trip if you have the time to not worry about making time. It's a great trip if you have the time and great weather. Those two lane roads take time even when you are in a hurry. Turn and burn and swap driver you might be better off to add 150 miles each way and head straight up 35 to Salina and turn west on 70 clear into Denver. Set the cruise control and just worry about gas and food.
Ok! I got it….. been at my watering hole tonite! I am not responsible for anything! Look at my cohorts! I rest my case! ….. Bones
U Haul 15' box truck one way from Windsor to New Braun prices out to $988. Add a one way flight to Denver, fuel costs, a motel room at the end of day #1 of driving and you'll be pushing $2000. Most of the rental companies do not offer unlimited mileage on pickup trucks so renting a pickup is out as the mileage charges would be a killer. Most any way you cut it, it'll probably be cheaper to have it shipped than to go get it yourself. Also consider you're getting into some shit weather. An FYI for anyone without a truck that needs to haul bulking items that involve some "out of town" mileage. I recently rent a maxi cargo van from Enterprise car/truck rentals to move my Daughter. $59 per day with unlimited mileage! Ford Transit with 11.5' or 12' of cargo length measured from back of seat to rear door. It also had a tall roof so you could stand up in it, which made it much easier on the back loading/unloading. Look for a HAMB relay or U Ship heading South out of Denver. A couple or three guys could get it in a box van then stand it up against the sidewall and strap it in place. Wouldn't take up any more space than a box/mattress so they could make some easy gas money hauling it.
I was very fortunate to have my oldest son go with me to pickup the 32 frame across two states, we did it all in one day and were following a snowplow home. And it started out a nice sunny 60 degree day too; it was a very wonderful trip with him along.
One more. A couple years ago I delivered a customer 32 chassis to the XPO terminal that I used. Did the paperwork and they sent a kinda rough looking young man out to my pickup, I carefully guided him into the pallet and got it off the truck, he gunned the forklift swung it around and proceeded to ram the pallet with frame into a 6 inch pipe full of cement destroying the pallet, spreader bar and bending the horns. He backed up took it up the ramp dumped it in the terminal. All this was while I was watching. I complained to the terminal manager who confronted the man who denied he did the damage and said that was the way I delivered it. They refused to reload the frame and let me take it home for repairs. Over the next couple days while I was fighting with them they delivered the frame and I ended up paying for the repairs and collected no damages. I'm sorry to ramble on but over my 40+ years in business I could wrote a book about shipping and freight handlers.
Commercial drop shipping usually only works if there is a fully enclosed crate protecting what is being shipped & even then it is a roll of the dice. A careless forklift operator can destroy any crate protecting a item being shipped. As another week begins with the country suffering one of the worst winter storms since 1996 with a death count of 50 and growing and another storm system developing in the Northwest …. “ Drive Safe - Arrive Alive “ is my tag line on the videos I post on social media …. Stay off the road when there are winter storm warnings posted and/or common sense dictates. No trip is worth your Life or the Lives of others you share the road with … Jim
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