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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by pat59, Sep 24, 2015.

  1. pat59
    Joined: Sep 21, 2012
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    I'm working in a one car garage here and don't have a frame table. I'm setting up my A frame to start boxing it in, and then front and rear suspension install.
    I was thinking of setting the frame up on four jack stands and having anchors sunk in to the cement floor and then using turnbuckles to hold the frame down snug to the stands to prevent any movement. Any thoughts on this yae or nay?
    -Pat
     
  2. Yes and no. yes sounds like a good idea and no what happens when you take it loose from the fixture (in your case jack stands and cables) and it goes spoingin all over the place.

    be sure and use good welding procedure at the same time is what I am suggesting.
     
  3. pat59
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    Yea, Good welding procedure I understand. Thanks for the reply. :)
     
  4. HOTRODPRIMER
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    I realize I'm just a back yard builder but I don't have a frame table and I have built several frames without the aid of a frame table and I end up with a straight frame,the worse I have been off is 3/16" and on my Deuce pick up I was dead on,you just have to take your time and move around a lot because the frame is not in a jig.

    This includes a new X member and boxing plates.

    You have to measure a lot to make sure you are staying level you also have to move around a lot,no continues welding.HRP
     
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  5. Fabber McGee
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    Even with a heavy frame table, you can't just start at one end and weld to the other without getting a bunch of warpage. For boxing, I would weld it about the same as you would torque a cylinder head. Start with a***** load of tacks, then weld in short 2 or 3 inch beads with long spaces between them and spiral out from the center. Then go back and do it again in the center of the spaces between welds. continue that way until completed and you should not have any problems.
     
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  6. Inked Monkey
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    I have some big rings in my concrete floor. They've been there since I bought the place and the only thing they have been good for is tripping me when I'm drunk. I've thought about cutting them off numerous times but I keep thinking I'll end up using them for something.......
     
  7. Budget36
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    I boxed my '36 Ford frame, just leveled out on jack stands, I used a few shims here and there, and placed some tractor weights on the corners, I tacked the heck out of it bouncing around side to side, etc. before starting to run any welds, I kept checking my 4 foot level as I went, never had to do anything while boxing...came out to where I couldn't tell if it has any offset at all.

    Now I did leave the original rear X member in it, and had already welded in my Heidts front X member, that may have kept things squared up enough for me to start with.
     
  8. pat59
    Joined: Sep 21, 2012
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    Thanks for the thoughts guys. I got a friend coming over Saturday with a hammer drill to put the anchors in the floor. I used a plumb bob to transfer four frame holes to the cement, And I'll use eye bolts and turnbuckles to secure the frame near the jack stands. I take some pics of it when I got the frame snugged down.
     
  9. King ford
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    If your frame is clamped down and you put warpage caliber stress into it, you won't know until you release the binders, if you level, square, measure,weld.....repeat until complete if any weld stress induced warpage occurs you will know immediately and have a much easier time correcting the problem......good luck, have FUN ...BE SAFE!
     

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