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Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by Ryan, Mar 31, 2014.

  1. EnragedHawk
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  2. DKroadsters
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    You are welcome, doc

    I am really really happy with your engine build, this is awesome, congratulation

    The whistlering sound, in the Youtube video is an airleak, it was a testdrive on a French flathead

    Hope to meet you next time i go to GNRS

    I am happy you have the Frenzel

    Thanks Ryan for starting this thread and telling the story about these rare speed parts

    Really looking forward to hear the Sound again

    Best. Tim
     
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  3. seb fontana
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    ""As for the intake, I think we are gonna have to agree to disagree... Tardel and I both studied it last night and I just don't see how those letters could be anything but cast into the intake.""

    After seeing what some people do with metal shaping, leading, shrinking, streching, english wheel ect I think it just takes "ya gotta wanna"..
     
  4. Not that I've thought a whole lot about it, but if one were to try to pull a fast one with a Canadian intake, wouldn't it be MUCH easier to engrave the Frenzel moniker rather than have it raised? Seems to be a lot of work for not much gain.
     
  5. Rusty O'Toole
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    You are talking about a guy who designed and made his own supercharger from scratch.
     
  6. I'm talking about the unlikelihood of someone 'faking' a Frenzel intake - as was alluded to in a previous post.
     
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  7. fryguy
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    I seen this engine in person at The Roundup and even though the pics Ryan posted are beautiful, seeing it in person just blew me away. Listening to it in person made my knees weak.


    Fryguy
     
  8. Elrod
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    I really enjoyed seeing and HEARING that flatty Doc! I shot a little video of Keith firing it up and Doc in the background as the proud papa! Very nice!

     
  9. banjorear
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    Dang! Even all hopped up like that, that flatty is idling at around 700 RPM. What a beatiful engine and glorious noise.
     
  10. seb fontana
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    I had expected to hear some Frenzel noise but I couldn't make any thing out over the exhaust..
     
  11. Fark!!! That thing sounds absolutely raucous. Now after hearing it I love it, before hearing it I wasn't a fan.
     
  12. Great vid! That thing sounds so good:cool:
     
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  15. Doc.
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    Great job bringing that one back to life. I like how you fabbed your own intake.
     
  16. flatheadpete
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    It just keeps getting better. Wow!
     
  17. autobilly
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    Thanks, sounds as good as it looks.:)
     
  18. 34hardhead
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    heater 010.JPG add one to the list please
     
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  19. Gary Addcox
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    Does the Frenzel only mount standing up ? If not, a friend of mine is building a '40 Ford truck with a Navarro-headed flathead and other goodies here in San Antonio that has a flat-mounted whatever on top of the intake. Is this #10 ?
     
  20. Gary Addcox
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    Was a Frenzel made for the 21-stud flattie ?
     
  21. Wow, that was a great read, hell it was a great everything.
    Outstanding thread.
     
  22. thirtytwo
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    I think I would agree , while It would be possible to weld and then make those letters , i think it would be almost impossible not to see a slight discoloration where the filler metal was used unless the same aluminum was used as a filler, in this cas another cast intake cut up... That would be some real dirty welding I would think
     
  23. Doc.
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    Yeah Gary, all Frenzels mount verticle.If it is mounted horizontally, it is probably a Mccollough.
     
  24. titus
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    if there were only 9 or 12 made it sure likes like they are all known of.

    Of all the pics i just looked at everywhere this set up is the only intake with the Frenzel name on it so its either one someone had casted or the display unit as Ryan said. In my mind someone made it, if you look at the pics of the Frenzel add its funny that they didnt draw the intake manifold in detail like they did the blower set up, to me it means he sold the blower set up and you bolted it onto your intake, so back in my mind he didnt make an intake with his name on it or it would be pictured or offered, but again who knows.

    Doc,
    I dont agree that your distributor is a Nash twin 8 unit, it looks like an 8ba distributor with a custom made adaptor to run the Nash twin 8 cap and then id assume there is a rotor adaptor also. ive had a 2 of the nash twin 8 distributors and thats not one of em.

    i really think the resurgance in flathead stuff is neat, ive always kinda dug on them but have gotten alot more into them as of late.

    JEFF
     
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  25. Doc.
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    Hey Jeff,

    It is indeed a Nash twin 8 dizzy. It has been modified by Bubba to fit the Orasco angle drive,but it's an original Nash unit.
     
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  26. titus
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    Got any better shots of it?

    here some pics of a couple nash twin 8 distributors
    nash.JPG
    this one has the original base adaptor or spacer thing that is generally discarded nash2.JPG
    never seen a nash dist with vacuum advance either.
    and heres a stock 8ba distributor
    nash3.JPG

    There really arnt any good shots of your distributor set up but it sure looks like a 8ba distributor with an alumunum adaptor for the cap. id love to see some more pics of it. n

    Not trying to argue or knock your distributor set up, i think its even neater than the original nash distritubor. this is just stuff that really interests me.

    JEFF
     
  27. Doc.
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    Here's what I know. I bought a Nash twin 8 distributor for 1500.00 off ebay. I sent it to Bubba to have cut down to fit the Orasco angle drive. This is what he sent me back after machining.

    Doc.
     
  28. titus
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    Regardless of what it is its neat. Thanks for the pics Eric.

    JEFF
     
  29. quickchangeV8
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    I remember talking to Mike Russell about the Moombeam roadster when it had the same Frenzel in it and similar Elco Twin heads along with the Nash Twin 8 distributer setup. He said it was an absolute brut to get the timing absolutely correct on, and the only way he could figure out to time it, was to use two timing lights at the same time. He also told me it was very hard to start in colder weather. I consider Bubba to be a very smart guy when it comes to flathead ignitions. By setting up the distributer on a late flathead distributer base vacuum advance has now been gained and cold weather starting should be much easier. The whole unit should be a whole bunch easier to set the timing as well. To me that Nash Twin 8/late flathead ignition is a work of art.
     

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