fuel injection

Anyone ever try to put fuel injection on a ford 223? I don't want to modify the hood on my fairlane and the only thing that I can find that fits under the hood now is the original setup. I think that a throttle body injection would probably fit but am unsure.

 

At the risk of looking like I'm letting you off easy, I suggest you post an intro (per the policy of this forum). Just walking in here with a handful of "gimme" and a mouthful of "much obliged" just isn't how things are done here. That being said:

I recall years ago seeing a (HILBORN?) sidedraft setup on a Ford 6. Can't guarantee it was a 223. Try some of the suppliers like Clifford who specialize in in-liners

 

Put a flying toilet on it.

Like as has been said we have a certain protocall, and it doesn't hurt a bit to floow it.

Most of us ae into mechanical here and not electronic. The flying toilet is actually a little newer than most of us like to use but it is cool as hell in my book.

Here is a link if you google you may find more info than this.

http://ronsfuel.com/flying_toilet.cfm

 

Just posted an intro. Sorry about not doing one before. How reliable are those things. I have only seen them on race setups and this car is definately not a full throttle ride.

 

You might try searching the internet for "Megasquirt".
Reading all the sites & user experiences will keep you busy for hours.

 

It is funny you posted this. Just the other day I was pondering how to do this on my 223. I thought of a few differant ideas, all using the megasquirt mentioned above.

1.) Modify the intake to put fuel injectors in each intake runner near the head and modify a carb to modulate air flow into the intake manifold. I killed this idea because I don't know enough about how the fuel distribution would work. The 223 has 4 intake runners going into 6 cylinders. It would be difficult to program the timing of each of these to get the ideal amount of fuel into each cylinder.

2.) Get one of those fancy 2 or 3 carb offy intakes and put 2 or 3 1 barrel throttle bodies on it. The injectors would be in the throttle body. I think this would look the coolest, but would probably be expensive and probably pointless performance wise.

3.) Swap out the 1 barrel carb for a one or two barrel throttle body on the factory intake manifold. This would be easiest to tune, and definately the most cost effective.

After I pondered all three, I realized that my car runs pretty darn good how it is, always starts up (even in cold weather), runs great and gets me where I need to go. I may eventually do option 3, but for now I think I will spend my money elsewhere.

I like the 223, but it isn't going to last forever. When it does finally give up I will most likely swap in a 302 since it wouldn't be a whole lot more expense wise than dealing with rebuilding the 223.

If you truely are interested, the megasquirt manual and forums are a wealth of information.

 

Wasn't the 300I6 the same basic engine? That was a damn fine engine till the EPA put all the smog regs on and the end cylinders starved for fuel with the lean mixtures they utilized.
Always figured they would do better with TPI, what did Ford use fior EFI till they went to the V6?
Dave

 

You are not lying about the cost of the 223 rebuild. Just did that and would definately been cheaper to do a V8 but I just really like the look of the 6. Anyway I did think of doing a chevy tbi 2 barrel but i don't know yet how to manage the electronics. I did visit the megasquirt site and will have to sit down some time and do some reading on their system soon.

 

I have used them on V-8s on the street, your plenum works as a buffer unlike stack injection that has no plenum and separates the cylinders.

It certainly is different than running a carb but that's hot rodding. They are not all the way on or all the way off like a stack injection unit is.

 

I put a Megasquirt driven throttle body on my Son's '66 Chrysler.

Yes, I know it isn't traditional but when I got done none of the electronic stuff or throttle body is visible due to the huge stock air cleaner.

The reason that we went with the electronic fuel injection is that the car dosn't get driven much and the fuel in the carburator would evaporate making it very hard to start.

With the fuel injection it starts easily even if it has been parked for months and it runs smoother that it ever did with a carburator.

Since I built the system myself with parts from the local pick your part the whole cost was about the same as a new carburator.

Of course it was "educational" in that I had to learn about sensors, laptop tuning and all, but that is a good part of life.

It made me a believer in fuel injection and I am planning to use the Megasquirt driving port injectors on my '51 GMC. That is if I ever get the bodywork done!

 

Something else that will work on your litle engine and will be a more viable solution is to run a couple of side draft carbs. You could find SUs or the solex copies they look good and work well. They are a slide carb and are easy to tune.

 

At the risk of getting us both shot for discussing this in a traditional forum.

We do this quite a bit and i would suggest using a TBI system from a 4.3 L GM engine . The TBIs flow may be adjusted to more closely fit the 223 by lowering the fuel pressure with a adjustable regulator.
Use the factory GM computer as it would have all the parameters installed from the factory and would need very little to function very well. The distributor would need to be worked up and changed with a V6 unit as well . The engine would then have electronic spark control as well as retard and total injection control etc.
The only problem i see is the actual cost of doing the entire project compared to just a supertune on the existing engine and carb etc....
Every part is available and the overall driveability would improve .

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