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GASSER MUST HAVES and cant haves?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by DirtyDave, Aug 4, 2013.

  1. powrshftr
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    They do a pretty good job of acting as an ambassador between too much horsepower and not enough axle,don't they...?:D

    Scott
     
  2. powrshftr
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    Holy shit is that car ever BAD frickin ASS!!!!!!!!!!!
    Nice job Brother...!!!

    Scott
     
  3. powrshftr
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    Don,
    Throw out some of those stories we all love to hear about real live encounters back in the day.....I haven't heard one in a couple of days and I need my fix...!!!
    I'm not ready to detox from the Gasseritis...!:D

    Scott
     
  4. willys41
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    Thats a Quain Stott build. Wish it was mine..
     
  5. D.N.D.
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    Hi Scott

    There were not any standouts, the Bros did not have anybody to race to speak of as there were not many B/Gas supers

    So the A/Gas supers all had 6-71 blown 392's with a B & M hydro in a big Willy's

    The unblown cars B & C ran Hilborn Injected 327's - 4 speed - 10 by 16" M & H slicks - some Cal Auto glass parts - mags all around, and that's what the cars had to run at the top of your class

    Then it was up to you with your engine & driving to win, and that's what separates the men from the boys


    I would say from 64' to 66' it was very close as we all had the same stuff either in a Willy's or Chevy or a tri 5 too, then it all started to change with the mini cars and it lost its flavor because they just did not look like gassers

    But it was plenty cool while it lasted, like watching SWC & Maz hazing those rears and going 145 in those old big lumps [ now those were gassers ]

    G Don
     
  6. powrshftr
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    Thanks Don!

    I have to be honest with you:The thought of running 145mph in a Willys with a stock frame makes me pretty damn nervous.
    You guys had some serious balls back then Don.
    My hat is off to you,Sir.

    Scott
     
  7. D.N.D.
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    One year at Bakersfield it had rained and the strip was dry, but a few water spots in the shut off

    Dick Biougaries was making a run in the the B/Gas red Willy's and he backed off right at the wrong spot and the rears hit a water spot and around & around he went

    As I recall 7 times total 3 one way and 4 the other, and it did not flip and you all know the story about some fresh shorts

    G Don
     
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  9. Steve!
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    Very Nice car. What year would this car represent as a period correct A/Gas racer, as the class changed drastically over the years?
     
  10. Danny G
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    When modified production came about the gas cars stopped having to have mufflers onboard, working lights and the interior changes.modified production was like a buffer inbetween the stock cars and gas cars. I think that's about the time the rules started to change
     
  11. Quain Stott
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    Steve we shoot for around 1967 this car has a few things that are off but not many. It has a stock 55 chevy chassis less than 10% engine set back. As I have learned on here the tunnel ram is a few years off. It had side ways carbs I spent about 5 hours welding it up to make them straight in line I knew the side ways carbs didn't come along until the 70s. The fuel regulators are wrong but that will change. The roll cage is NHRA legal because he plans to beat this thing to death the steering wheel is from a 55 chevy that his dad raced in the late 60s. This car fits this thread good (Gassers haves and can't have). The owner started a build thread on here but hasn't had time to finish it.
     
  12. Steve!
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    Quain, first off let me say that you did an awesome job, as usual, on this car. The tunnel ram was why I was asking because I thought that by the time the tunnel rams came out, about 1968, that the A/gas cars were getting more like Ohio George's Mustang and the Anglias and such, so I didn't know what year that the car was supposed to represent. I think that the body of the car looks fantastic with the choice of color and the hand lettering it looks straight out of the mid sixties. Is he running gas or alky?
     
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  13. langy
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    Scott i've done my best to cut down on breaking stuff with Strange 1350 joints, Strange shafts etc etc, keep your fingers crossed for me.

    One thing I keep noticing about all the Gassers I see being built nowadays is it appears to be cool to fit the fake bolt on 12 spokes, Personally I hate them with a vengeance as they look so wrong !!!
     
  14. langy
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    What a great looking car, nice job !!!
     
  15. langy
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    Quain just wanted to say you did a great job on that car, congrats
     
  16. DirtyDave
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    Amen!!
    Some interior pics would be appreciated too.
     
  17. Lytles Garage
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    Quain; there is a BBC M/T cross ram for sale here on the HAMB, VERY Rare. would fit your 67 time frame. That 55 is BITCHIN !! Chris
     
  18. Larry T
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    VERY NICE, all I see missing is a cool can (and they might be illegal now).
     
  19. Steve!
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    File under "can't haves". Spotted on "that auction site". Poser injection haha.....
     

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  20. 1971BB427
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    It is a fantastic looking car! But I wonder if a car built this way would have fallen into A/Gas back then with the weight to cubic inch rules of the 60's? A fairly heavy '55 Chevy, with a 396 engine would seem to be more in line with B/Gas than A/Gas.
     
  21. 1971BB427
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    That is probably the ugliest fake injection I've ever seen! And you're correct, it shouldn't be on a gasser; or any car!
     
  22. jimdillon
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    Quain, very nice build on the 55. Hopefully will see it at the Meltdown next year.
     
  23. II FUNNY
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    Here is the thread on the Pale Rider 55. There were some pictures on FB of the car after lettering and some of the interior, but I couldn't find them again. It is close to the interior on Quain's Willys. Aluminum floor and firewall and upholsterd tuck style door pannels it's super clean and spartan.

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=831246

    MELTDOWN DRAGS
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  24. seb fontana
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    Carbs look awfully close to hood and cowl; think they are not restricted some? Neat scoop wouldn't be objectionable...
     
  25. swade41
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    I was reading in a thread yesterday that the reason for switching to a straight axle was to save weight. I can hardly agree with that one, if my econoline axle assembly wasn't buried I'd weigh that cocksucker vs. the extra A-arm Henry J suspension I have.
    A straight axle w/pair of leaf springs has to weigh the same if not more than a set of A-arms and coil springs. That being said I am switching my J to a straight axle setup, more so to fit in at Thompson's gasser class than anything else though.
     
  26. Baron
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    Scott. Very nice. Clean, simple and neat.
    [​IMG]
     
  27. seb fontana
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    I often wonder that myself, I think stub for stub its pretty close but you get a clean area for engine mounting, headers, etc and way less camber/toe change so an axle got to get a plus for handling..
     
  28. DirtyDave
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    Fear not! That is funny, thanks for sharing!
     
  29. Baron
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    Another weight saver would be to replace the Econoline axle with a chrome moly axle.
     
  30. 1971BB427
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    I think it depends on what frame and suspension the car had previously Phil. A Tri 5 Chevy is a good example of a car that will save weight, but only if you stub the frame also, and remove all the heavy front crossmembers, etc.
    I'm betting my Falcon and my Austin both got heavier when I installed the straight axles. The Austin was already a straight axle from the factory, but so puny I was afraid to drop a V8 on top of it, and not have it bend. I went tube axle, and it still weighs more than the stock axle. The Falcon's Econoline straight axle is way heavier than the stock A arms and coils, and even with all the inner fenders thrown in too!
    I think back in the day it wasn't always about weight savings, but weight transfer. The straight axle seemed to push the weight up and force more weight to the rear wheels.
     

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