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Gene's 35 Ford rebuild

Discussion in 'Off Topic Hot Rods & Customs' started by Gene T Stark, Aug 23, 2023.

  1. Moriarity
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  2. Gene T Stark
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    I thought this was the HAMB and that independent front suspensions were allowed on the HAMB.
     
  3. Moriarity
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    absolutely not......
    from the rules
    5. As mentioned throughout these guidelines, the H.A.M.B. focuses on TRADITIONAL hot rods and customs. Posts pertaining to traditionally inspired, but not quite period perfect belong on the main forum found here. Please note that we don't focus on things such as modern fuel injected motors, big-inch wheels, frame clips, after market independent suspensions, etc... at all on the H.A.M.B.. As such, posts that stray away from the "traditional inspired" will be deleted.
     
  4. Gene T Stark
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    Gene T Stark

    Well, I want to thank all who have provided encouragement and suggestions. I have really appreciated your comments. As I understand Moriarity's post because because I have IFS on my 35 ford, I am not welcome on the HAMB. Does anyone have any suggestions on where I can post my build progress and get the kind of encouragement and support I found here?
    Thanks and goodbye.
     
  5. Dooley
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    Just don't show pics of the IFS and you're fine.
     
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  6. Hi Gene, there are many on here with similar modifications. As @Dooley suggested, a little strategic effort on camera angles and prudent choice of words keeps the offending issues from making an appearance. Hopefully you can make that work for your build thread and will continue to post here.

    I think we've all tripped over that line on occasion.
     
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  7. Moriarity
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    Yup, simply continue with your build, just don't show pics or talk about your off topic frame
     
  8. wstory
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    Seems a shame that a guy who is learning,...open to advise and skinning his knuckles, in a tiny garage, to upgrade an old Hot Rod that he's driven tens of thousands of miles, gets slapped for showing a store bought frame. I encouraged Gene to post his build in order to share with others and benefit from advice from those who experienced similar challenges or who have questions.
    Being in a similar situation, and at rick of censure, one is discouraged from sharing their adventure if doing so requires careful and edited use of the camera and the word!
     
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  9. Gene T Stark
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    Gene T Stark

    I have decided to see if anyone is interested in my old frame. It is the original unboxed frame with parallel leaf rear springs and ride tech shocks. It has a straight front axle and split wishbones. The front brakes are wildwood 140-11013 1934 - 1948 early Ford - drum spindle. I will use the rare end and rear brakes on the new frame.


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  10. Only if they are not aftermarket and fit HAMB years according to what Moriarity posted. Sounds like if you used a 64 Jag one you would be fine.

    I also am currently building a 35 Ford but have not posted a build thread as I installed one of the very popular aftermarket front suspensions.
     
  11. It has been made clear, that your build is welcome here...only one aspect of it is "off topic", but as pointed out, just leave it out of the conversation/pictures.
    So many aspects of building a Hot Rod, that one singular portion of the build (that's easily omitted, in this thread) that would be to have you leave this site seems...well, silly to be frank.
    Looking forward to your updates, don't miss an opportunity to share with like minded individuals your progress.
     
  12. Gene T Stark
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    Gene T Stark

    Since I received the frame, I've spent a lot of time fitting parts before I start to paint. Tried paint the shock mounts with POR-15. I wasn't very happy with the finish so I decided to order Eastwoods 2k ceramic chassis paint. Naturally they can't ship that product to California. So, I'm back to POR-15. I tried rolling instead of brushing this time. The first coat looked good. It leveled nicely an left a good finish. When I put in the second coat it was filled with bubbles. I believe that I put the second coat on too soon and that caused the bubbles. I will try another sample and leave more time between coats.

    A lot of the mill scale on the frame has been removed by fatman as they fabricated the frame. In order to get ready for paint, I have been cleaning off the mill scale they didn't get. I tried sanding with 80 grit on a DA sander, a flap wheel and abrasive disks. I recently ran across Scotch-Brite Clean & Strip. It works much faster and easier than anything else.

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    After

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  13. Fat47
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    Am following this thread with interest. Keep up the good work. Interesting that Moriarity said in Post 20 that Ryan changed the rules once he replaced his front end.
     
  14. Moriarity
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    Ryans front end had nothing to do with the rule change, Ryan tightened up all of the rules back in 2013 after he ran into a guy at the roundup with a spot on 100% era correct model A. when Ryan asked what his Hamb name was the guy replied "I am not a member, there is way too much modern content there for me". So just the sort of member or car that he was trying to attract were being repelled by too much late model content.....
     
  15. Gene T Stark
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    Gene T Stark

    What is post 20? does this mean that I can show a picture of my front end?
     
  16. Gene T Stark
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    Gene T Stark

    It's been almost a month since I posted my frame for sale. I haven't seen any interest. I just don't have room for two frames and a body in my small garage. Today I posted a new offer in the classified section to give it up for free without the brakes. I will give it a couple of weeks. If no one wants it, I will cut it up and take it to a scrap yard. I hate to scrap an original ford frame but I need the room.
     
  17. Moriarity
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    no, you can’t post any pictures of your front end……
     
  18. Maybe Gene's build should be moved to the OT forum so he can post pics of his frame?
     
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  19. Moriarity
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    ok, I will move it. Gene go ahead and post your frame
     
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  20. Gene T Stark
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    Gene T Stark

    I was just trying to understand Fat47's comment. The front suspension is an insignificant part of the whole project. I don't to be exiled to an off topic forum. I value the comments and suggestions I get from the people who have been viewing my posts.
    I promise I will never again mention my front end again.
     
  21. Moriarity
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    I already moved your thread, everyone that was following it before will still get the notifications on it. feel free to post your front end and chassis pics now
     

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