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Get ready, King Of Trucks is coming...

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by terd ferguson, Oct 1, 2009.

  1. terd ferguson
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    Hahaha! They'll look good on the '52! I haven't found caps that really speak to me. Eventually, I'll chrome the stock wheels and run shannon caps.





    And I did get a little stuff done. I got the rest of the belly burner exhaust all bent up. I just need to buzz it together. That'll probably happen sometime in the next week. I don't know if I mentioned it previously, but this exhaust is aluminized 1 3/4" and is the prototype. After its done, I'll remake it out of stainless and polish whatever can be seen.

    I'm also going to the big autofair swap meet this weekend looking for tires. Keep your fingers crossed!
     
  2. JeffreyJames
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    Alright, well then I have been searching tire sizes again and the 8.20's are definitely not too talk. Only 3/4" over the 7.10's. But at we suspected the tread is about 3/4"-1" wider which makes a lot of difference there.

    I spent an hour going through 24 pages of your trucks only thread and gave up because there is so much what ever shit in there. I can't find any pics of a stance you should follow anywhere. I will tell you this, Dustin's truck has the nicest stance I have seen on a truck. It's a bit lower up front but over all not slammed and I think that looks more appropriate then anything out there. If that truck were painted with chrome steelies and a bangin' interior I think it would be one of the closest built trucks to the way they were and also would blow peoples minds.

    Note: I do not think Dustin should paint his truck because it's perfect the way it is but if I had your truck, that's the stance I'd shoot for because it's not some new school approach where it's slammed all to hell. If you go overboard on paint, overboard on the engine, overboard on chrome belly burners, etc what separates it all and makes certain things stand out?

    You make the truck about the paint and the details but leave the stance subdued so that the eye does not go into sensory overload. If you are painting your truck straight black with a tasteful amount of chrome, that's when a slammed stance looks best because it's not everything all at once. Ya dig?

    So raise that rear up and inch or two and leave the front where it is. Then find the perfect set of 6.70's and 7.10's and run the nose a little lower like we were talking about. Then get on bringing that body up to snuff while we find you a 390 Cad V8.
     
  3. THE-SYNDICATE
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    JJ,

    Which one is Dustin's? I need a refresher...

    Thanks,

    Robert
     
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    Ah yes... I based my wheel and tire combo off of that one. Totally bitchin. I think I'm about 1" lower in the back. It's kinda hard to tell... But I think I'm the same in the front. Love it.
     
  6. JeffreyJames
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    Do you have 16" wheels? That's what Dustin's running. I like the look of the bigger wheel on his truck.
     
  7. THE-SYNDICATE
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    Nah, I found a deal on the 15's and went with them. I think the 16's are bitchin but I couldn't swing the cost at the time.

    Cheers,

    Robert M.
     
  8. THE-SYNDICATE
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    I used the overall diameter as my comparison. I think my deal is like 1/2" larger in Dia than Dustin's.
     
  9. JeffreyJames
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    Ahhh yeah your truck looks bitchen! You should talk some sense into Terd because I can't get through to this child.
     
  10. terd ferguson
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    You're totally funny. I'm copying the stance I want (with the front lower) from THE-SYNDICATE, just an inch or two lower all the way around. I have a feeling you'll understand when its done and you can see the profile in person.


    Rob's...
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    Mine...
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    I think (and you'll come around too) that 3" lower in the front will put the rake back in it like Rob's and be the perfect height. Not too low, not too high, just right.

    The only other option is to leave the front as it is and take out the drop shackle in the rear. That would raise the rear 2". If the front ends up too low after the drop axle or flip, I can put a leaf or two back in. It would add about an inch per leaf.



    ***EDITED TO ADD***

    Jeffy, photoshop Rob's truck two inches lower all the way around. Like rear fender even with the top of the rim and front fender even with the top of the whitewall. Please. Pretty please. With sugar on top. Then post it here.
     
  11. JeffreyJames
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    This is where you're headed....
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  12. terd ferguson
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    And for the record, here's Rob's tire and wheel specs. Those rears sound gigantic, but obviously look pretty good...


     
  13. JeffreyJames
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    Here ya go! The rear wheel well is right where yours is now I think. So that should be right where your ass sits now and where the front should go if you lower it. I think you should do this...then paint it black.

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  14. THE-SYNDICATE
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    DAMN.... That's bitchin!!!
     
  15. Big Nick
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    I think that stance will look sick! My 52 sits pretty damn low up front too. I can get some side shots and measurements if you need.
     
  16. THE-SYNDICATE
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    Fuck'n Hilarious....
     
  17. THE-SYNDICATE
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    So the real trick with this would be getting it to ride correctly... I think the mono's with the axle as supplied by SID will get the front correct. My axle is only 2.25" drop if I remember correctly and Sid's are 4"???

    The back would most def need to be c-notched at this point. My truck needs it for sure as it sits right now... I've got probably 2" or say 1.75" between axle on frame right now and the fucker hits all the time. If I stiffen up the shocks and allow another 2" I think it will be much better. I have also thought about adding BAGS to the outside of the frame rails to help in situations where I need to haul something. Only hauling mind you... Not for doing the Grand Slam.. ;)

    ~Berto
     
  18. Big Nick
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    Syndicate makes a good point. I had a bike in the back of my truck recently and it took a beating. I have been considering bags also just for that reason cause I did buy the truck to haul shit.
     
  19. JeffreyJames
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    Or and I know this is crazy talk but you could leave the truck up a bit higher and let it serve it's purpose as a .....you know truck? I know crazy talk right?

    Just messin', I actually do like trucks sitting lower (not too low) but if you guys are hauling bikes and shit, bags might be a good option.
     
  20. Mr. Jean
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    Just found this thread. Fun to follow along. I've got air ride in back, does let you adjust better. :)
     
  21. terd ferguson
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    You suck!!!


    I take that back. You are a ruler!!! Thank you!!!


    Honest question here, do you think that photoshop is too low? Cause I think that's as close to perfection that a mere mortal like me could acheive. And no way is King Of Trucks going black.

    For those that don't know, Jeffy and I have talked at length in person many many times about the direction I want to take the truck and the goals I have. Things like hubcap selection, ride height, paint color nuances of different shades of gold, engine, body mods, tire sizes, whitewall widths, just to name a few. With most things about this truck, its like he's reading my mind. But we were disagreeing with the ride height. He likes it just like it is now (and maybe even raise the rear an inch or two) and I want to put the rake back in it by lowering the front a bit more.

    And I'll say it again, just for the record, I think Jeffy's latest photoshop is fucking awesome! And that's exactly how I want King Of Trucks to sit. And it should sit just like that with the dropped or flipped front axle.



    You guys should seriously consider air shocks for the rear. A fraction of the cost of bags with a little trade off of being a little more inconvenient. But, I think that would actually serve you two well. You air up the shocks when you haul something heavy and leave them down any other time.

    And Rob, my ride in the rear is pretty decent. I have 4" monoleaves with 2" dropped shackles and new shocks. It leaves about an inch of travel with trimmed bumpstops, but that's more than enough as I don't haul anything but ass. I've never felt the rear hit the frame. The front, however, is a different story. I removed three of the six stock leaves for a 3" drop along with new shocks. Even with the trimmed bumpstops up front, it hits on big bumps with about an inch of travel. I have resigned to wait to address this until I either flip the front axle on top of the springs or install a dropped axle from Sid's.


    And thanks again Jeffy for the photoshop. It reconfirms what I already knew. I've got to get that front dropped a little more.
     


  22. Just keep in mind that shock mounts are not designed to carry weight and will fail if not properly beefed up.


    Also, I looked all day for tires for you and nothing yet.




    BloodyKnuckles
     
  23. terd ferguson
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    Thanks for trying! I may go tomorrow morning. Saturday for sure 100%.
     
  24. mpot
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    Just make sure it's got enough muscle to kick some ass on the asphalt (fords and etc.) That thing is crying for a strong 502!
     
  25. Dave K
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    I think the 3" axle is going to get it just where you want it. If I could do it over again I would trade my 4" axle for a 3" because the 4" is well below the scrub line. If you put a nice big notch in the rear you will be able to haul heavy loads and still have it ride great with no bags or air shocks.


    Keep at it the truck is looking good!!!!
     
  26. JeffreyJames
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    Alright I did not want to admit it but I can no longer hold back. When I finished photoshopping this I have to say I was a little giggly. I really does look rad and I think YOU SHOULD get it down this far.

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    HOWEVER!!!! The reason I stated that I thought the truck should stay where it's at or be raised in the rear is because I want you to focus on getting those fucking tires! You can lower a truck on some turds (no pun intended) but it'll still be shitty until you get the right tires. The stance that you have right now would be a million times cooler if you had nice Bias Ply tires on it. Now if you were to buy that axle and lower it some more over the tires you have now, well it would only be marginally cooler because you're still rolling on those tires you ripped off that 1989 Cadillac Eldo hahaha!!!

    [​IMG]


    Get some cool tires first. Then we'll get that truck down some more.
     
  27. THE-SYNDICATE
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    For the record.... I got Giggly too Honey Pie....

    I thought DAMN FOOL... WHO'S RIG IS THAT????? That's fuck'n awesome!!!

    But then I remembered this is about Terd not me.... :)

    I dig it. My truck wouldn't work that low as the push bumper won't be in the right spot for the back of the new FUEL CAR... ;)
     
  28. JeffreyJames
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    No man, I don't think you're truck should go anywhere. Your stance is dialed in and I think that people forget that there are many different levels of perfect stance on old cars. So many different ways. You truck is perfect as is.

    Terds needs some adjusting once the tires are chosen but it definitely looks like it's headed in the right direction. He's got such high expectations for this trucks outcome an just am excited to be a part of the process. When he told me he was thinking Caddy motor last night I started running all the ideas through my head again. I hope this thing turns out better then he expected!
     
  29. Shawn M
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    Not that my opinion matters, I like this because its.........lower! Correct me if I'm wrong but the rake appears to be all in the difference in tires, in other words if the front and rears were the same the truck would be level. I love the look, the rake, whether or not it's too low to be practical remains to be seen.
     
  30. terd ferguson
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    Flipping the axle is virtually free, lol. But yeah, I want some tires too. Boobie looked all day today and didn't see any. I'm going in the morning and Saturday.

    Rob's truck is righteous for sure. I originally wanted a cad v8 before I found it had a 261 instead of a 235. I love this stovebolt, but the desire for the cad mill didn't go away either.


    I appreciate it Dave! I love those mono leaves. Thanks again for the killer deal!


    According to Coker, Firestone 6.70 15 is 28.58 inches tall and Firestone 8.90 15 is 31" tall. That makes a difference of almost 2 1/2". So some of that rake is from the tires. It looks perfect to me!
     

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