Gotta get this off my chest...32's are Nucking Futz

Your right it does suck. I bet you'd think differently if you had one for sale right now though

Drew

 

Shut up

 

The thing I always liked about Iowans was how calm and unflappable they are. C'mon Triple C, what do you really think?


'32's are what they are. First, it was the first step in modern car design away from the boxy cars of the 20's. It retains some aspects of the Model A but leans toward the definitely modern car-like '34's. And it's a rare 1 year model. Add to that the intro of the flathead V-8 and the fact that '32's have been used to create many of the most famous rods since the 40's and you've got a popular car.Milner's car was a 32 for specific reasons and symbolism and American Graffiti is now an old movie.

Demand and scarcity dictate prices on the world market. Lots of real rodders, but lots of gold chain rodders want a Deuce and these guys have money. The HAMB might not be the place but really,if you could get 100k, would you really say that's ridiculous,just give me 15? Should pro golfers really make the kind of money they do? Would you turn it down if you could put a little ball in a hole 400 yards away better than Tiger? How do you feel about $30K for just a new steel body or Speedway Motors new '32's?

I started out with a '32 chassis but I sold it and built a '31. It is a lot more reasonable to do so. I probably could still afford to build a '32, but,like you, the prices just aren't worth to me. I'm having just as much fun bein' different.

 

It sucks, but so does the price of just about everything now days..
A new full size truck will set you back 40K and up.......and they loose thier value the day you roll off the lot..

 

Is there a new rule on the hamb about $$ limits now??
Sounds a bit like jealousy to me,
personally I could care less, never plan on owning one. I like model A's just as much. Seems like most people want 32s so they can say they have a 32, be it real or not.

 

To QUOTE 3WLarry.......

Most of the ( but not ALL ) folks who complain about the 32 Fords do not have one......
I think the prices are crazy too....... I sold a pretty nice Steel 1932 Ford Hiboy roadster for $7500...in 1979 ( no repro steel back then ) and not counting my new engine...I have less than 25 grand in this 32 roadster...and it's all real Henry steel....




But we are talking 1970 and 1980 dollars......not 2005 dollars. I have owned and enjoyed the 32 for more than 25 years.

Brookville and the others reproduce WHAT PEOPLE WANT.....
It is supply and demand......

I believe that there are MORE Model A Graffitti yellow coupes than 32's......why.....because they are about 1/3 or less the money.....to buy..
1932's have always been more expensive than the other V8 Fords of the era....I wish everyone hated them........so I could afford more than the ones I have....


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Just like real estate, but cooler. It is what it is. Will the bubble burst? Maybe, maybe not. 23 years ago, my family bought a duece 3 window with two sets of frame rails for $900. Even then that was a smoking deal, but it's simple supply and demand. Like someone else covered, they're highly desirable for a lot of reasons, and last I checked, they quit stamping original ones quite a while back.


The one we've got? My dad built it as a resto-rod/sorta trad car, gave it to my grandfather, who drove it to California from Gerogia, and all over hell in between, then gave it back to Dad. It's currently sitting in a corner of the shop, waiting for a new life as a fenderless highboy, and after Dad is done enjoying it, it'll be mine. Will I give into the lure of a quick 100K? Nope, not worth it to me, too much sentimental value; and I understand, unlike a lot of other folks, that there are a few things in life that you'll truly only get one chance at. A real 32 3 window is one of those things for me, cause I'm a broke ass.

So i guess it's kinda a moot point for me, but quit bitchin... I'd love to have an 06 Z06 as a daily driver, but I ain't bitchin because I don't have the means. Same thing.

 

Nope, after awhile has already happened. When did someone lay up the first 'glas 32?? Like over 20 years ago. All that has done in this case is make the real deal worth more to some folks, and there's nothign wrong with that.

 

I bought a Wescott '32 roadster body in 1976 for $2,200. DELIVERED to Connecticut. Got in mocked up and bought most of the parts to finish it, then lost interest and sold it to buy something else. I still have the '32 grill I swapped for when I was 10 years old. Still hope to own a '32 Ford to attach it to someday.

 

32's are a great car-I personally just dont see the difference between them and any other early Fords personality or attractions.

It's virtually a cult following ,if you ask me..... not much different than the Harley worshippers.....I mean- seriously arent there even better machines built than those?

 

It's got a little crazy but thats comming from sombody who struggles to pay for a $6 lunch! but if i had that amount of cash i would snach up a nice 5w so quick it would hurt.

 

Why are '32s "it"? I can't tell you but they were back in '65 when I bought my five window body. Maybe it's the one year thing, maybe it was the Beach Boys or maybe just the look. All I know is out of all the stuff I've had it's the one thing I wish I'd never let go of. Not because I could get crazy money for it now, but because I don't think I'll ever have the means to replace it at todays prices. If I build another coupe, it'll probably be an A because the price is a lot more realistic for me. Hell, we thought the stuff was scarce and expensive back then. It's just like some of the muscle cars, who coulda guessed what cars you couldn't give away when they were 8 or 10 years old would bring now.

 

I think they're all hype too. Personally, I think 33-34's are much better looking. It's kinda like the difference between 67-8 and the 69 camaros. 69's come with a premium, much less than the 68's. Why? Hype. 32's are good looking cars, but not much better that the earlier or later ones.

 

32's are expensive, always have been and always will be, but not responsible are the sellers of deuce Fords, but the greed of men who pay for the opportunity to own a deuce. For Greed and opportunity are elements that drive the world of capitolism.

Without greed and opportunity, we would all be hearding sheep.

A strong belief of the religion of Taoism; the less that you desire in life, the less pain that you will endure.

Later, L B

 

I'm with those who think '32 Fords are ridiculous.

Anytime something gets that pricey, it becomes something OTHER than what it originally was.

'32 Fords aren't '32's anymore. They are trading cards for rich folk.

I always liked model A's and T's better.
More primitive and real.

....and yeah, I DO NOT have one. duh. If I had the $100,000 for one, I'd be building about 20 of the cars I like to play with.

Buying and selling cars never was my cup of tea. I'm in it for a different reason.

TINGLER

 

Well I'm building a Deuce too and yeah, I can tell ya, any parts for a Deuce that would be similar for a 33, 34 or A bone are priced thru the friggin' roof. I mean the tooling and materials/labour is the same....but the prices are more $$$. Ebay tells me the same is true.

But it will take me longer to finish my 32 because of the expense but Iv'e always wanted a Deuce so I'm prepared to wear the cost for what I want even if takes me longer. Smart shoppin' and wheeling and dealing plus doin all the work myself has kept to cost to a kinda sane level - but it is still an expensive exercise in $$$ and time anyway you look at it.

Complaining about the gold chainers aint gonna change anything. Ive sacificed a shitload to build my Deuce and thats my choice. Supply and DEMAND are everything - that's the DIFFERENCE !!

I think a large part of it comes down to what youre prepared to sacrifice to achieve your goal - but then, we're all Hambers and we know that already right guys??

Rat

 

That's life if it is too damn expensive find something you like for less if you dont want to do that save up your pennies or win the lottery..

Dawg

 

There,___Do we all feel better now?

 

Just suck it up and get used to it. It's been that way since the 50's and it ain't going to change. When a nice hot rod went for 3500.00...Deuces were 5Gs. It's an escalator ride. Hold your nose, pay the price and get on or stand at the bottom and wish you had bought one 5 years ago when they were cheaper.

Either you want one bad enough to pay what ever the price may be, by what ever means possible or you say screw it. If you say screw it don't whine about it just accept it. If you want one bad enough plot a strategy to reach your goal.

I borrowed the money for my cars. I paid too much at that time but I'd do it all again. You borrow 25gs for a new truck that's worth 15 in 5 years.???? You borrow 25g's for a nice Deuce and it will be worth 30 in 5 years.

I was there where you are now when 5 Gs for a Deuce was stoopid money. I didn't whine. I built what ever I could afford. I put sweat equity into the project and sold them for a profit (not counting labor). Reinvested in a nicer project that was worth even more when I sold it.

People think I'm nukin' futz. I don't care. Everytime I walk through the garage I have to stop for a second and enjoy the view. I never thought I could own what I have right now.

If it's worth it to you, you will find a way to get it done. If it's not, quit bitchin about it.

Life ain't fair. It's up to you to figure out a way to over come it. Whining doesn't help.

Listen to me...I'm whining about whiners. I just had to get that off my chest.

Don't take this as a personal attack, it's not meant to be personal, but it ain't going to get any better...trust me.

 

When I posted my reply.....I wrote and rewrote it several times to express the above. I should have waited for Tommy to say it......

He said it much better...
And I could have just said ME TOO.....

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My brother and I bought a 32 tudor in 1958 for $120. Almost passed on the deal, til the seller showed us chromed window frames still in the paper from the chromer. Drove it for 10 years, pulled the motor and trans, sold it for $375. Damn we made a killin on that car!!!! Some things never change....OLDBEET

 

I think the prices are semi acceptable as long as it's an original body and frame.....yes I was lucky enough to get one that my father had since 66, I wouldn't sell it for any amount of money just for the true love and sentimental value it has for me. A lot of these cars you see big price tags on don't mean anything until there actually sold. The only thing to do is keep beating down the paths and unearth one......we all know they are still out there by the great post's we see of guys still making barn finds, I think there the best finding them like that but then again who wouldn't. I look at it as money is just money it will come and go through your entire life as long as your blowin it all on the right stuff it should always be with you in some shape or form.

 

Non-issue for most of us... By the time I was able to drive, '32's were out of my price range.

Do you want a Henry '32? then step up, If you want a '32, there are options that are cheaper.

I like the lines of the '27T, & '28A, '29A roadsters better anyway... lighter looking. So unless somebody drops one in my lap (complete), I'll probably never own a '32 Ford. Who am I kidding, I'll probably never be able to afford a '28-'29 roadster either.

 

I had $15K in a nice SBC powered, full fendered, steel '32 5 window back in the early '90's. It was my only car for 4 years. I ran it hard until the engine needed a rebuild, chassis brackets were breaking, and the wiring caught fire. I drove it like a $1000 beater pick up. Eventually I traded it for a nice running '40 coupe. Wish like hell I'd kept that '32 - tore up as it was.

I'm jealous - and not afraid to admit it. I want another one.

Cars like Clark's and Titus's Nailhead-powered 5 windows keep me hopeful. I'm sure they weren't cheap but a lot of determination and legwork kept them within reach.

I'll have one again. Definately.

JH

 

Well, '32's, at least coupes and roadsters, were almost always worth more than the surrounding scrap iron...I think they probably passed their original new dollar value right after WWII, and have been going up ever since. This parallels other cars popular with rodders and car nuts--'55-7 Chevies, two seat T birds, Lincoln 12 Continentals, etc., NEVER reached nearly zero value like other cars of their time, always defied the depreciation curve (in the early sixties, the right stock '55 or '57 Chevy would bring 2 or 3 times blue book!), and started to go up in value about the time other similar cars of their time were vanishing. When a car is right, people like us notice and try to buy them, period.
If you look at the classified ads in very early HRMS, you find people SEEKING '32 roadsters and coupes. Dollar value was not yet high (though it was MANY times the value of a '32 Chevy, say), but they were already uncommon and already in high demand. When that happens, you have a popular classic, not a used car, and the effects of supply and demand are inevitable.
I gathered enough stuff to build 2 '32's through penniless teenage years in the sixties, through raising kids when I was lucky if I could take $15 to Hershey, through grad school and moves, a few bucks at a time, always watching prices go up faster than my income. There were many times when I could only watch fantastic deals go by because I didn't have five bucks in my pocket. Eveything, of course, went absolutely nuts after about 1975, as Streetrodding multiplied the number of people who wanted deuces many times over.
I am now kinda a '32 magnate by accident, not just through decades of accumulating bits but through finding a new wife who not only agressively hunted down the roadster I could never find herself, but allowed me to cut loose and follow my real priorities, now that kids are independent and lfe is fairly secure.
I could NEVER afford getting into a good '32 at current values, and building one form parts is no longer a way to save money and may not even be possible any more.
I locked on to '32's, by the way, right around 1960. They were essentially gone from the street then, and I discovered them through the first HRM's and R&C's I encountered in a PX in Panama...
The cover of the first big R&C warped my life forever. These cars were RIGHT, I knew I wanted one, and I've never cared about demand or value. The actual value of the stuff I need is a negative for me--the cars I have will only be actually worth something when I'm dead.
By the way, our family car for my first twenty years and my first car, which I still have, is an export '48 Ford, so the works, handling, and sounds of early Fords have been part of my life since 1948, on three continents...
So, screw what they bring at auction, what are they worth to you?

 

Cob,,,,I have a friend who is involved in the same line of work as yourself "account executive",,,,and I believe you and he have the same problem,,,you worry about other people managing their own personal money.

I drive a nice 32 ford 4-door and don't have a fortune in it,,but I built an sold many times to get to that point ,,,,,20 plus years!

Am I nutz,,,yeah maybe,,,but I did get a deuce,,,not the prized 3-window but good enough for me,,,

Enjoy your toys and quit whinnin' about 32's,,,,,

The HAMB,,,is a great place to learn,,,,,I like all kinda of cars,,,,but here lately if you own a 32 your branded as a "GOLD CHAINER",,,

If I owned a gold chain I would sell it and buy a few more parts! HRP