We have to have enough of a windshield to put a sticker on, and the usual lights unless it didn't come with them. Or you can just get a special vehicle registration. That's the easy part, nomatter what you have on your car tags, stickers, permits, the governers wife, if a state trooper pulls you over it is his call. It is mostly attitude as Mazooma1 stated.
well there you go thats why we choose to live in the greatest nation on the planet, america, and I would say to the other countries you do it your way we'll do it ours, bigger fences make better neighbors
can i get a amen brothers and sisters, thank god we did away with the waste of inspection stickers it was useless,
Which is just ONE of the many reasons I'm moving over that way. The City of Memphis not only has a vehicle safety and emissions inspection, even for antiques, but has a $30 "wheel tax" added to your renewal. See ya in the spring!
yeah..aint you got that anti gravity thingy figured out yet so you can float right over the towns cities and law enforcement?..whats the hold up?
If it is more than 35 years old there is no inspection needed in NC. The dmv only cares about the vin numbers being correct. Other than that does it have head and tail lights. Horn, brake lights, winshield wipers and some form of mufflers an e-brake and good tires. Thats about it.
I drove my Caddy this year with an inspection sticker....although it is the last sticker it recieved, 1983...passed a number of cops, either get a thumbs up or at least a smile. It pays off having a car with a set of chrome tits on the front!
In Michigan we have no inspection what so ever for any year car. I'm sure that firefighter that restored that Dusey then took his wife and young family out for a ride is up in heaven with his wife and 2 out of the three children (?) wishing he would have installed seatbelts OR not taken his family out for that Sunday drive.
Let's not turn this into an "us or them" pissing match. There's alot of things we could say about some of lame rules and regs in alot of US states, too.
I gotta chime in here, dear. I doubt that seatbelts would have helped or saved anyone in that tragedy. The simple fact is it's near immpossible to protect yourself from the ignorant ass that's doing everything except paying attention or driving defensively. Do they help? Certainly they do and I have 5 years experience in crash and safety testing to back that up. But they help in a MODERN CAR DESIGNED WITH THAT IN MIND. How well does one expect to fare in a head on or full speed broadside in a 30s or 40s era car, or a car from the 50s and early 60s? Seatbelts may even prove to cause more physical damage to a person in one of those. I don't know of many cars before the 60s with collapsable steering columns and crumple zones. It took until the mid to late 60s to design a hood that folded on impact instead of shearing through the glass (remember what happened to Jane Mansfield?). Sitting in the center of the front seat back in the day was called the 'suicide seat' because of where the driveline went on impact. Sadly, safety is not a black and white fact. Some common courtesy and discipline are the best safety features that ANY car can have added to them and as black and white as that should be anybody reading this knows it to be the most grey area in automotive history.
I down here in Florida, running a T bucket, no windshield, straight pipes off of a blown six. Been on the road for 8 years and have never been pulled over. They have rolled up side of me and checked it out, gave a thumbs up and kept on going. I knew there was a reason that I was born and raised down here (the above and the weather) Robert
Eaactly, In my work I see several idiots an hour that think that "I didn't know", is an automatic exemption from the rules. I'm not saying that we can't and don't fudge a bit on the rules but why the hell would a guy build a car that he intended to drive on the road without first consulting the states motor vehicle code and deciding how to work with or around it? every state and province has the information in the books on ride height, windshield height, obstructions in front of the driver (such as blowers) Lights and what not. It's there to read and study and what you decide to do with it afterwords is up to you. But spending months or years building a car and then not being able to drive it because it isn't legal to drive in your area is just nuts and a waste of time and money and to cry about it afterwords is pretty silly. I see cars on here in guys build threads and rod trot coverage that wouldn't make it the two miles from my driveway to the Branding Iron Cafe without getting pulled over because of obvious violations built into the way the car is set up. If playing pro fairground poser is your thing I guess that works and you can drive the dualie and tow the trailer to the rod trots. <input id="gwProxy" type="hidden"><!--Session data--><input onclick="jsCall();" id="jsProxy" type="hidden">
Don't get me wrong...Mississippi does not have inspections either. They just have folks that sell inspection stickers. I moved here from Germany, where they are super strict. Before that, I lived in England, where they have the MOT...also hard to pass. When I commented on the quality of the inspections here, my 88 year old uncle put it into perspective..."What do you expect them to do for five dollars?"
in the US, most permits and inspections are basically a privilege tax. In some other countries they are for safety.
Exactly, just like the rules are different in each of the US states. Manitoba isn't nearly as bad as some places in Canada.
You don't need an of that stuff here in ontario. If it didn't have it when it was originally built new - you don't need to put it on because its all grandfathered. The car never came with it so you don't have to change it! I am pretty sure its the same in MB also. Get HTA regs and check them.
Excuse me for a minor correction. The "suicide seat" back in the days before seat belts, was the passenger side, not because of the proximity of the driveshaft(same distance to the driver by the way), but because the driver was generally considered safer. This comparison was because the driver had the hands on the steering wheel and it prevented less serious injury to the driver than to the passenger in minor events. On the passenger side, even in minor collisions, unless the occupant's hands and arms were up to protect the face, cuts and injuries were often fatal. In a head-on wreck, the driver might get broken arms, and even broken ribs and a smashed face from impacting the steering wheel, the passenger's head would go through the windshield, resulting in severe lacerations to the face, forehead, and throat. The term "suicide seat" was a result of those instances where limited damage occurred to the inside of the car aside from the steering wheel being bent and the windshield being broken on the passenger side. In the majority of those cases when the driver survived it was more likely that the passenger was a fatality. The remedy? Seat Belts.
Perhaps your version of 'back in the day' is earlier than mine. From my past here in MI there were many boulevard type roads with no center divider. Head-ons while not with any particular frequency were a bit more than uncommon. If you sat in the center of say, a 59 Pontiac or a 60 Mercury, in a head-on you fuckin died a horrible death. Those cars were not designed to save occupants. They were designed (they thought) to big and strong and withstand hard impacts. We all know that's a bad way to go by now I hope. Dad had a towing gig for a short time, so did a few of his friends and that's what they called the center of the front seat back in the late 50s early 60s. Then there was M&M installers. He and a friend were installing safety belts in commercial fleets and some individual's cars. That was just before the gov't mandate to include them from the OEMs and poof they were outta biz. I'd like to clarify that I think safety is certainly an important issue. Everything has it's limits. Anyone thinking that the OEMs have you and yours in mind might be a bit pollyanna with that. Yeah they do but they're trying to limit their LIABILITY to you and yours. That's it like it or not. There may be a tech or 2 designing things that is thinking of you but the that's not the overall concensus. I know this to be fact. I also believe I have the right to choose how to protect myself. I resent being told to wear a helmet on a bike. There's real science out there that proves deadly injuries wearing a helmet vs not. Would I drag race without? No. Would I snowmobile without? No. I certainly don't want the gov't telling me I have to bastardize my 41 Packard beyond how it truely was. I don't want anyone telling me I have to have crash features in my hotrod. I don't want political action groups telling me what color car I can have either...yeah it's being tried too. We here on this board want the best of how it was for ourselves. While driving is a privilege, not a right, I think the price for that privilege keeps going up in ways we may not see. That choice we all have in common has some built-in rebellion like it or not. Mine happens to be as I've said. I'm still here and I plan to be for a long time.
Remind me not to drive in Mississippi. I am a big fan of the other cars around me being in safe operating condition, hot rod or not. I see enough pieces of shit blowing black smoke and their rear window replaced with packing tape as it is.
Keith did I mention I do state inspections, sign VIN verification forms, etc..... The thing here is that every state has it's own rules and that's what you need to look into.
and that is going to prove my point...most of these so called inspections are only about the revinue generated..not really about the safety or if the car is held together right..most of the people given the job to inspect wouldnt know a defect if it poked them in the eye. (really would like to see these peoples credentials that say they are "qualified") this has been a public service announcement brought to you by a tax payer..and a Hot Rodder..and one that doesnt go around with blinders on oh and just to solidify my case..i remember when we had to get our tail pipes sniffed in michigan ..no longer..but back when it was law and to get your car registered..people were paying off garages like slot machines to get their "pass" even if the car didnt "pass"..the shop would take the sensor a bit out of the tail pipe or print a bogus slip..it wasnt about if the car really passed..it was a bout he F-ing Money if you want to find out why your state has these so called inspections...follow the money trail..it will lead you right to the Embezzlement and corruption of your local government..i guarantee it..they choose who, and how much$$..and the people involved probably havent seen the back side of their hand in years
Work around? Nothing really. As far as 'safety' regulations, they haven't stopped the slaughter on the highways. Nothing will. Unsafe vehicles ain't the cause of most wrecks anyhow, unsafe drivers are. I do put seat belts in my builds. I drive my grandkids around and I'd be a fuckin' retard' to ride them around without....................
Not to engage in a pissing contest with anyone but like I said, every state is different. Here in NH for the emissions testing the car gets plugged into a computer via the OBD port and the computer is connected directly to the state DMV. I know of no way to fool the system even if you try to bribe me. As far as qualifications we have to go through classes periodically, keep up to date with the latest changes, perform inspections in front of a DMV cop anytime they ask you to, be available for audit anytime during normal business hours, etc. And the money other than a very small price we pay for the actual stickers, goes to the garage doing the work, not the state. It takes about a half hour to do a proper inspection and we charge 40 bucks including the cost of the sticker and the OBD test if the car is 96 or newer. So at least here in NH pretty much everything you just said is NOT how it works...
maybe now with the advent of the OBD computer..my experiance was back in an earlier time for michigan before these OBD's were in cars..but dont fool yourself about the corruption..and the revinue generators our "system" has produced..and the payoffs and it might be this way in NH..but maybe not in another area or state..you know how the good ol boy system works.. sounds like NH found out this shit was going on and found a way to curtail it..good for them
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