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1952-59 Ford greeting from TX Motor fit

Discussion in 'Off Topic Hot Rods & Customs' started by Gasser1, Jan 14, 2012.

  1. New here but not new to customs or complete car fab,been around them all my life. I lean more to the odd balls .

    I tried posting this in other areas but no answers so I will try it with this group

    "Well the "Rebuilt Flathead " is junk:mad: good oil pressure 10# idle 40# at1800 rpm
    Comp 110# on all but #1-2 pulled the head and found the ring had busted and the block will need to be sleeved on 2 holes shame to others had no rigid and miked for st bore (3.189- 3.190)

    so my choices are (what I have rebuilt and setting in the shop):
    #1- 500 Cadillac with turbo 400:eek:
    #2- 390 Ford FE with C6:D
    #3- 350 Chevy with 700r4:rolleyes:

    The Cadillac looks to be the easiest it has a center sump about the same as the Flathead.

    The 390 has a frount sump

    The 350 has a rear sump could modify the oil pan to fit

    who has swapped any of these in and how much trouble did you have?

    or any other motor suggestions that are easier'"

    Pulled the frount sheet metal today and got the motor out.I will be trying the 500 Cadillac first This is my preferred choice,but first some lunch. I will post some picture and list of problems as I go along.

    If any one has tried any of the listed combos let me know I am looking for the easiest one
     
  2. JeffB2
    Joined: Dec 18, 2006
    Posts: 9,669

    JeffB2
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    from Phoenix,AZ

    The Caddy also has a front mount distributor which will help,what model Ford are you doing the swap in ? you didn't post the info.
     
  3. Retro Jim
    Joined: May 27, 2007
    Posts: 3,853

    Retro Jim
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    Welcome to this great group of Ford lovers !
    OK I am not to sure what you are wanting to install the engine into so I looked on your profile to see if you had that listed there . In that group of cars I saw a 1953 Mainline so I am guessing that is what you are talking about .
    Yes the Caddy will fit and be different but they are so damn heavy !
    Personally I would go with the Fe engine since there has been many of those engine swaps done and should be easier to find parts for the swap over the caddy engine .
    But in the end it's your decision !

    Jim
     
  4. 1953 ford custom line 2 dr went with the caddy motor fits nice looks like frount and rear mount will be easy to fab now if I can just figure out how to post the pitures here
     
  5. flyboy89
    Joined: Oct 6, 2010
    Posts: 451

    flyboy89
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    from So. Cal.

    As R.J sez: Welcome to the best group on the H.A.M.B.!
     
  6. thanks all
    If any of you are around Fort Worth your welcome to drop by
    my zip is 76114
     
  7. hay retro jim did you know the 500 Cadillac is only 50# heaver the the small block Chevy I know hard to believe but true.

    any one near Fort Worth your welcome to drop by
    my zip 76114:p
     
  8. dwaynerz
    Joined: Nov 16, 2006
    Posts: 238

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    welcome from illinois. i vote caddy power even tho i like seeing fords in fords. can the 700r be made to work with the caddy motor?
     
  9. JeffB2
    Joined: Dec 18, 2006
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    JeffB2
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    from Phoenix,AZ

    Here is something for the files: http://www.carnut.com/specs/engdim.html The Ford FE is 25 lbs heavier than the Caddy 500,however the Ford FE can lose a lot of weight by swapping to an aluminum intake,those cast iron ones on an FE are a real hernia maker.
     
  10. Cadillac were mo light weight either probably lost 25# of weight with the edelbrock intake

    700r4 and 200r4 4L60, 4L80 can go behind the caddy any thing with the BOPC bell housing will fit (Buick, Olds, Pontiac, Cadillac) I have seen these with 4-5 speed standers also
     
  11. Here's a picture of the motor setting in the rails looks like I will make the lower part of the mount out of 2.5x2.5 x1/4 sq tubing about 3"long upper came from Roy Pope.
    [​IMG]
     
  12. Ole don
    Joined: Dec 16, 2005
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    Ole don
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    WOWZIE! A 500 cube torque monster in a light Ford coupe. This is the old fashioned discription of HOT ROD!
     
  13. JeffB2
    Joined: Dec 18, 2006
    Posts: 9,669

    JeffB2
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    from Phoenix,AZ

    Best donor transmission would be a 200R4 or 700R4 from 1988-92 those had all the factory reliability upgrades and were still non-computer.The Caddys make tons of torque so I would lean towards the 700R4 be sure and replace the sun shell with what is known as "The Beast" the Trans-Go kit is the best upgrade to make it live.Try to post some close ups of the mounting as you go,any issue with the oil filter?
     
  14. will get turbo 400 with switch pitch converter (basic a lock up mod.) and will handle the torq.
    and 3.50 gears in 9" Ford

    Here the mount set up 2.5x2.5x3" straight cut on one end and 30 deg cut on the other [​IMG]
    The mount is a universal puck type mount[​IMG]

    The rear will probably just bee 2x2 as shown [​IMG]

    I am a firm believer in the K.I.S.S. (Kept It Simple Stupid) method of building
     
  15. Broke down and ordered my A-Arms and booster kit from Jamco to day another $1300 gone ,picked up a set of Granda spindles for $100 and Astor springs $55.

    :confused::confused:I sure seam to be spending a lot on a car I really did not like or want to build.:confused::confused::confused:

    O well its growing on me:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
     
  16. Not looking good for Jamco asked if the items were in stock and was told yes just had to bolt together. I should have them by now been 2 weeks
    I guess it true very slow at sending out there product:confused::confused::confused::confused:
     
  17. STAY AWAY FROM JAMCO

    Now calling 3 times a day to JAMCO they have not returned my calls since they got my money, very poor way to do business talk about putting a bad taste in your mouth. All I want to know is when I can except the parts they said they should ship 27 or 30 of January had in stock.

    I have been building cars professionally since 91 do 2-3 a year and it has been a long time since I have had this bad of service I just cant figure out what there problem is.

    O well guess this will be my last time dealing with them. If they don't get with me by wednesday I will call discover and file a complaint and get my money back and clip the car with something else.

    Jamco call me 817-252-2056
     
  18. JeffB2
    Joined: Dec 18, 2006
    Posts: 9,669

    JeffB2
    Member
    from Phoenix,AZ

    To anyone considering a purchase with JAMCO or any vendor Google their name and add the word "complaints" after the name and watch what comes up,in JAMCO's case pack a lunch,you'll be there awhile reading.
     
  19. got a replay fro jamaco now the story is the part were to be drop shipped from the manufacturer how can this be if they were in stock and jamaco just got them back from the powder coaters
     
  20. Some positive progress removed about 8# of grease and dirt from the frame. Filled some holes in the fire wall and shot the frame black and the fire wall Lunar Yellow set the motor back in now if I just had the parts from JAMCO

    [​IMG]
     
  21. Bigcheese327
    Joined: Sep 16, 2001
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    Bigcheese327
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    Any further progress on this? I love Fordillacs.
     
  22. I have gotten tied up for the past 4 moths first hand surgery the a couple projects for customers will start the last one next weekend( rebuild 396 & clean detail eng comp) and by about the 23 of June will be back on the 53 like to have it done for good guys this fall in Texas
     

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