Hot Rods GTO engine swap

What frame mounts and engine mounts are required to install 454 chevy big block in 1964 GTO. Any tech help would be appreciated , as i only want to do this once! lol. Thank you in advance.

 

Good way to ruin a GTO

 

Tman, would not be my first choice, but that may be a lot easier! Check mounts for a Chevelle, basically the same under the skin.

 

Can't you find a Pontiac motor anywhere?

 

Yes, some of us believe a Chevy swap can ruin anything. We cringe when on MotorTrendTV the answer to everything is "LS crate motor."

There's want-to and there's have-to. Years of experience prove BBC horsepower costs about half as much as Pontiac horsepower. And unfortunately, if handling is the goal, again LS horsepower does it all.

Maybe, decide on your goals and your budget.

Jack Vines - ask me how much Packard V8 horsepower costs

 

That would be an awful shame, *******ing a 64 Goat just because it's "cheap"

 

keep negative comments to yourself, please.

 

This one still has Poncho power- and is pretty rapid

 

when did it change to a muscle car forum?

 

I agree. Use Chevelle parts. Your not the first. I would paint it the Pontiac metallic light blue if were me..

 

Once again it's the Hamb to the rescue. Guy asked for TECHNICAL ADVICE and starts getting an *** load of opinions. Moriarity had to take his finger off the delete key to answer the guys question. You want your Goat fast for a third of future money spent, it's a BBC all day long with Chevelle mounts.

 

429-460 Fords are cheaper, more plentiful than a BBC. Maybe look into one of them.

 

then he'd have to cut off the front frame, and put an axle under it, and those cars look funny like that.

 

Jim Wangers use to jokingly say something to the effect of: "the secret to make your GTO faster is put a BBC in it"...

 

Not a thing Wrong with engine swaps, lots of Old Fords with other things in them. Most swaps are based on cost and availability, some just to be different. Rocky prefers Poncho Power as an example.

 

Purists be damned, Hot Rod that thing and leave the naysayers to argue with each other on the internet !

 

I would not do it , but it’s your car do what you will enjoy . And yes chevelle stuff makes it a bolt in process

 

Wow, HAMB showing it's colors! About the actual question, all GM A- bodies use the same basic frame. Watch out for chinese reproduction motor mounts; I put a BBC into my brother's '65 Chevelle, and the thru-bolt holes were so far off I couldn't use them. Ended up buying some good old U.S. made real GM parts.

 

I don't think the HAMB is being a restorer forum. The guy got his answer.

I think what people are commenting is that it would be cool to see Pontiac power. We like older engines here. Pontiac has some great history of strong engines. Non-Chevy engines cost more to build, no argument there.

 

Eggzactly! Dude might as well go LS if he wants Chevy AND cheap power.

Pontiacs, Caddys, Buicks and Olds need their respective engines.

 

Really put an axle under my 65 and didn't cut the frame....And if marriage had not gotten in the way this would have had a 426 hemi....

 

A high school cl***mate put a stock 396 in his GTO in 1971.
Ran like a scalded dog!

 

you didn't put a front sump engine in there, though.

 

I wonder what the difference is in building a BBC vs a large Poncho is? I looked a few years back, heck even bearings seemed to be twice the cost of a SBC, pistons I shuddered at.
But if you have a good, decent running 454 and a car that needs an engine, get it done.
Might even be ahead $$ wise if you don’t have a 389, etc, but have a BBC.
But will the Pontiac bell/trans bolt up from that era? Might be an added expense.

 

Meh .
As long as its not a primo restored 100 point Goat and he dosent butcher it up it all can be put back someday .
Unless he's racing it I certainly would just stay Pontiac. Rare expensive car these days. Chevelle stuff will fit . Headers should clear everthing.

Never did a BBC in a early Goat but did several SBC Into 69 Lemans copy . Was bolt in . Took all the mounts off a chevy wagon .

Can't recall if the heater box clears the BBC or not on those ?
Run a chevy trans/ bell housing or adapter plate to the Pontiac trans . There cheap.

Some pics of the car would be nice .

 

if you put a big block chevy in it now, it's halfway to the LS swap it'll get from the next owner

 

Use a chevy bellhousing, they're easy to find. The Pontiac trans should bolt up.

 

If he's going to go that route he can use the savings to buy some high heels and a feather boa.

 

I get frustrated with all the BS.
He asked what was needed, not for an opinion.
Please stay focused on the question.