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Technical Guide 6004 turn signal question.

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by highboy, Oct 6, 2025 at 1:19 PM.

  1. highboy
    Joined: Sep 8, 2007
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    I recently acquired a guide 6004 7 cloth wire turn signal. With the wires cut about 6” from the base. Set down on my kitchen table with a 12volt battery charger. A test light, and my multi meter.
    First thing I did was go online to find a schematic, found one and followed it. Nada. Started swapping wires around, got the turn signal to work, even the little blue indicator light worked. But no brake lights. Recorded which wire went where. Then swapped them around and got the brake lights to work but no turn signals, recorded that. But no luck getting both to function simultaneously. The cloth wire color coding on the schematic even matched mine so I don’t know what I could be doing wrong. I’m emberrassed to say how many hours I’ve got into this, so any help would be greatly appreciated They are :
    Red (solid).
    Black (solid)
    Tan (natural)
    Tan with black and black thread
    Tan with black and red thread
    Tan with black and-green thread
    Tan with black and green thread
    What’s odd about this is if you look at the schematic they don’t mention the two
    Tan with black tracer thread wires.
     

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  2. Yeah, this is why I seldom trust color codes....

    Turn Signal Wiring How-to | The H.A.M.B.

    Follow the directions and this will identify all your wires. If it still doesn't work, you have a bad switch. I will note that the diagram you show requires a three-prong flasher for the indicator light to work, which is why there's seven wires.
     
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  3. BJR
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    I don't know if this will help but it's all I got. turh signal wiring 1.png
     
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  4. 50chevytx
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    Those wires just have just a drop of solder where they connect to the switch. Very short and tight inside housing. Might have a loose wire at switch.
     
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  5. highboy
    Joined: Sep 8, 2007
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    Okay, I got it to work! Now the little blue indicator light doesn’t flash but you gotta pick your goddamn battles, and I’ll take the win. Of course tonight at midnight when I go to get a glass of water, I’ll see it in the corner of my eye and next thing I know it’s dawn, I haven’t slept and my turn signal is now tossed in a pile in the corner of the kitchen and I’ve got a stromberg gutted before me. ADHD, it’s a bitch. Steve the thread you recommended was excellently written and exactly what I’d been searching for on Google for days. He even knew to write the numeral 3 when speaking of a specific wire and spell the number three when speaking of the number of wires… That being said, I got confused, in the first section of identifying the wires 1, 2 and 3. when my results kept contradicting my expectations. This too made me tear into the unit. And check for any bare wire contacts, clean the contacts, and see what was what in general. Hopefully this will help others not open their veins in a warm bath in the future. Here goes with pictures for us less intellectuals.
    Pic 1 is the Guide 6004 7 wire turn signal.
    Pic 2 the lid off exposing the mechanical lever actuator
    Pic 3 lever removed exposing the 7 wires going into the brains of the unit.
    Pic 4 the underside of the brains showing where each wire is soldered.
    When I looked at it I noticed the jumper wire. That’s the exact unit drawn in the schematic I’ve been following for a 52 Chevy turn signal
    I then labeled each wire as it’s drawn working backwards from the brain. And wired it as shown. The only bit that still causes confusion is. The indicator bulb in the schematic shows it leaving the flasher unit P terminal, and described as a black and green threaded wire. Yet it is actually tan and black. And there is no other wire to swap it with that will rectify the problem. Least none that I can think of.
     

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