I have 2 for sale. One is the full tilt mERC FLATTIE WE RAN A 12.39 @109 weighing in at 1650 lbs with driver and standard trans. Other is a 1960 Jag DOHC 6 cyl with twin SU carbs - still in car. I'd love to see this in an HA/GR. Factory 210 hp. That was my plan when I bought the car. both can be seen listed here for sale: http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=304720 Brad
So if a 1960 Jag engine is legal, would any of the XK based Jag 6 cylinders be legal? They used that engine into the '90s didn't they?
Following the logic that seems to prevail, the basic Jag engine should be ok as long as it was configured for 1962 or earlier, ie, carbs, points, etc. I think it would be a kick-*** looking car. My vote is; Do it! However, my vote doesn' mean ****. Ron
Yeah, I have a fear that migh be the case for alot of us come November. Vote early, vote often. Yes, a Jag I-6 would be cool, but I don't know if it fit's the spirit (ive seen pics of Jag drag cars, but always with Chevy or Hemi power, and as an altered or funny, so after the 'window', hmmm ).
I wish somebody would take on an IH engine. A silver or black diamond. They aren't any heavier than a Jimmy. There is no way in Hades I can take one on, I have my hands full already to overflowing - but that engine needs a hero.
I don't really think an DOHC engine has a place in HA/GR, dI think the Jag engine is qualified as an exotic head. My vote is NO.
I dunno bob, it IS factory an all... for a 1960 mill its exotic, but the rules as they are would allow em it'd be a HUGE advantage for sure. how the hell are ya brother??? its been WAY too long. might be time to come down an see ya. know anyplace we kin get a good cup o' kawfee down yur way bud?
Advantage ...? Nah , 4k to rebuild a stock head, 6k for ported and polished, 10-15k to rebuild the motor , race cams and ***ociated bits $1500 plus ..... let 'em in, they are a gutless POS . All the over the top high tech OHC doesn't spell horsepower . The Jimmy is going to beat em hands down. Era correct motors are only about 210 cubes . Biggest they got to was about 245 inches . Later models are injected so they are out. My slower than hell 59 Chevy more door hardtop with Blue Flame would easily waste both a MkV11 and a Mk11 Jag which I raced back when .
It would require alot of work. Definitely not an engine to just "drop in" and go. They generally dont have enough compression to blow a spit wad through a straw when stock. I've always been of the opinion that for the same amount of work necessary to get a Jimmy into the winner's circle, an IH would put you that much more ahead. The slant valve heads are far and above the Jimmy head, which is the only reason I'd speculate them to surp*** the Jimmy. To just yank a runner, slam it down between the rails and go - you'll be disappointed. The low compression and camshaft will kill you. Isn't that about the case with any old engine? Except that Jag! Hud
Hud, What is an IH engine? You've aroused my interest. Is there a website I can look at and get some specs and info? Ron
Come on Ron. IH = International Harvester. I bet you didn't grow up on a farm. You'd better get busy and build an IH. Your Jimmy is just too slow.
Hmm, Cornbinder I've heard, but 'thirteen letter truck' is a new one on me, hafta remember that one .
Ron, Here ya go. http://www.binderbulletin.org/forums/index.php There is an entire section of that forum dedicated the the Diamond series engine. You need to pay attention to the "Slant Valve" head. I've never heard them called a "thirteen letter truck" either. Ya learn something new every day.
Gentlemen, gentlemen, gentlemen.... the term is "thirteen letter **** spreader" least thats what all us truck drivers call em
I had thought about a monster HA/GR. When I first went on the fire dept all the engines and trucks were gasoline powered. They had monster inline 6's. Hall Scott comes to mind, 820 cubic inches, very durable. One pumped at the Signal Hill tank farm fire for 3 days at max rpm with out shut down. A Continental with 760 cu. in. already has twin carbs. You could build an Arfons style HA/GR. Of course you would have to run 2.90's in the rear because most were red lined at 3000 rpm.Roy
You know what 348.. I remember that Signal Hill fire quite well..They pumped water on the Natural gas tank for days, trying to keep it cool enough so it didn't blow.. My Dads office was just a block away from the fire..But that is all gone now. Industrial complex now...
I used to work on power units for a sawmill back in the 80's. I saw some huge engines, mainly inline 6's. Way too heavy for any dragstrip use as the weight would be outrageous. Many of them were 50-30 years old at the time and kinda forgotten. However: there were some powerful, big cube examples that weren't so heavy. Waukeshau flatheads and some OHV's come to mind. Anyhow, it doesn't really matter. I ***ume this cl*** has the unspoken rule that if it didn't come out in a truck or car, its not eligible. You already can't disallow the 1-2 ton trucks, as that would kill the Chevy guys outright. Which is why I brought up IH.
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