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Harbor Freight vs. Beverly for a throatless shear

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Deuce Rails, Jan 5, 2004.

  1. 392_hemi
    Joined: Jun 16, 2004
    Posts: 1,737

    392_hemi
    Member

    I don't need one real bad, but if the price is right, I'd be interested in a B-2. Can you post prices or send me a PM?
     
  2. They're out there used.

    I bought a like-new Beverly two years ago at the Petite Jean swap meet for $85 !!! :D The guy that had bought it early on the first day for $50!
     
  3. Beverly Shear Mfg
    Joined: Sep 1, 2009
    Posts: 42

    Beverly Shear Mfg
    Member
    from Dyer,IN

    New B-1 $536.00
    New B-2 $747.00
    New B-3 $1081.00

    If we do the Alliance membership it would probably be with a 10% discount on the machine and a 15% discount on replacement blades.
     
  4. Beverly Shear Mfg
    Joined: Sep 1, 2009
    Posts: 42

    Beverly Shear Mfg
    Member
    from Dyer,IN

    You can find used ones at auction every once in a while. Do watch out for the possibility of bad frames. Sometimes the previous owner will try to cut something that exceeds the designed intent and spring the frame. Also watch out for excessively long handles that replace the factory length. Overloading of the shear is the most common repair seen in over 80 years.
     
  5. Very true, but you are unfortunately going to suffer a mandatory beating because of your highfalutin use of the word "scion". :D

    The nerve of some people...trying to force an expanded vocabulary upon the H.A.M.B.....sheesh...as the guy at the parts store said to me this morning..."That rilly, um, like, sucks."
     
  6. Erik B
    Joined: Sep 4, 2006
    Posts: 1,992

    Erik B
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    That's very cool that Beverly Mfg has been around so long and has been passed down through generations. That is becoming increasingly rare. It would be great to see some pics of the factory. Maybe that is a little OT for here but I bet it would be interesting to many.
     
  7. Beverly Shear Mfg
    Joined: Sep 1, 2009
    Posts: 42

    Beverly Shear Mfg
    Member
    from Dyer,IN

    Working on it. Sales have pretty much been word of mouth with the company for the last 15 years. It's time to get the word out though. We may get a full site up and running if sales improve through this HS economy.
     
  8. Irrational Metalworks
    Joined: Feb 5, 2007
    Posts: 589

    Irrational Metalworks
    Alliance Vendor
    from DFW

    What kind of blade replacement program do you have going. Do you sell them outright, or is there a swap for your old one? Also whats it run for B2 blades?
    Thanks for jumping in, its great to get a sraight answer from the guys who make them.
     
  9. CoolHand
    Joined: Aug 31, 2007
    Posts: 1,931

    CoolHand
    Alliance Vendor

    I'm savin' my pennies for a B-3.

    Maybe middle of next year.

    Now that I've seen the price (which is not any higher than any other place I've seen online), I will be buying mine directly from Beverly, regardless of whether they become a vendor here or not.

    I'm a small business owner, so I really enjoy getting to support other family owned concerns.

    Thank you for keeping your product high quality and Made in the USA.
     
  10. Beverly Shear Mfg
    Joined: Sep 1, 2009
    Posts: 42

    Beverly Shear Mfg
    Member
    from Dyer,IN

    B-2 blades are $115.00 new or you can send the old ones in for resharpening and that is $50.00. That is assumming that they are not too badly damaged or undersized from too many resharpenings. Shipping fees apply of course.
     
  11. 35mastr
    Joined: Oct 26, 2007
    Posts: 1,898

    35mastr
    Member
    from Norcal

    Its nice that Beverly stepped in here. I would also like to see them become Allience Vendors here on the Hamb.

    I will be looking for a good used one now that I know they will support the product.

    Never know,Might run into a few bucks and just pull the trigger on a new B2.
     
  12. 60srailjob
    Joined: Nov 14, 2008
    Posts: 1,218

    60srailjob
    Member
    from nowhere

    if you can afford it I would buy the real deal....................
     
  13. fireguy976
    Joined: Jan 23, 2007
    Posts: 13

    fireguy976
    Member
    from to

    Just a quick response,

    Sometimes....you dont always get what you pay for.... was at the last Autorama in Detroit, Dake was there with their power hammers, it crapped out. I was at the Miller booth checking out the latest Tig welders with the Dake rep came over and asked for the miller rep to weld up the pulley for the hammer. It was a P.O.S. el crappo offshore item. Even the miller rep had problems welding it because of the crap alloy used.

    You'd figure the big dollars you are paying for the Dake name you would get quality pieces in it, but I guess they cut to the cheapest cost for the best profits.

    I think if you really looked into it, a lot of items that are made in America, may only be partially assembled in America.

    Be very careful were you spend your money, that "Beverly" Shear could also be off shore and not know it.
     
  14. CoolHand
    Joined: Aug 31, 2007
    Posts: 1,931

    CoolHand
    Alliance Vendor

    Proof?

    If you're going to say something like that, bring proof, or don't speak at all.

    There are legal rules to the use of the phrase "Made in the USA". You cannot simply gather up a bunch of chinese crap, assemble it here, and call it Made in the USA.

    So, do you have anything, or are you just projecting crap from your noise hole?

    Bonus points if you can place the origin of "noise hole". ;)

    EDIT: I occurs to me that perhaps you were talking about imposters who are trying to cash in on the "Beverly" name while peddling imported junk.

    If that was the case, I apologize for jumping your case.
     
  15. HemiRambler
    Joined: Aug 26, 2005
    Posts: 4,207

    HemiRambler
    Member

    A Beverly shear is a sweet piece of equipment - my B3 cuts as good as the day I got it too - I bought mine used.
     
  16. LZ
    Joined: Sep 9, 2007
    Posts: 618

    LZ
    Member

    You know the HAMB just friggin amazes me sometimes...:eek:

    Welcome Beverly Shear.
    Please tell your Dad thank you for an icon product. I Love mine and the ones I have used at shops over the years.
    There have been many of us privileged to use and or own such great products.
    Thats great to hear he is still driving the company.:cool:
    Best to you and yours
    thank you
    Luke
     
  17. Beverly Shear Mfg
    Joined: Sep 1, 2009
    Posts: 42

    Beverly Shear Mfg
    Member
    from Dyer,IN

    As far as Beverly Shear being an "assembled" foriegn component product, absolutely NOT. The frames are cast in the USA using steel and maleable iron from the USA all parts are made in the USA all assembly of each and every Beverly Shear EVER made has been from ONE building located at 3004 W. 111th Street CHICAGO, IL USA. since the doors opened in 1931. Before that, they were made by Granpda in the house directly behing the factory so if you want history, there it is. NO FORIEGN PARTS FOUND HERE. More hands on time is spent with each shear than you can imagine.
    Get back to this tonight, have a good day guys.
     
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  18. Ditto that!
     
  19. thin wallets and poor economy seem to be kicking the hell out of honest working folks these days! if i did metal work it seems the quality and factory backing speak loudly of my choice. i really doubt any harbor freight tools will be around for 2 generations, let alone provide any kind of service to support their product.
     
  20. GryphonArmoury
    Joined: Sep 9, 2009
    Posts: 1

    GryphonArmoury
    Member

    I build replica medieval armour and the Beverly shear is a by-word in my community. Like many other communities people are always looking for a cheaper alternative, but there is yet to be one that you get so much value out of. I first tried the Harbor Freight shear about 8 or 9 years ago and it was such a piece of junk that I sent it back and got the B2 I had been dreaming about. I bought it new and used it until I went out of business and sold it, and it performed without flaw the entire time. I'm getting back into the craft now and bought the $200 "economy" throatless shear from Eastwood, and have concluded that it is nothing more than a re-paint of Harbor Freight's shear- SO BEWARE! Its taken hours of tinkering to get it to perform and it will still never perform like a Beverly. I regret having sold my B2 and would gladly buy one again if I could afford it.
     
  21. Hi!
    Joined: Oct 4, 2006
    Posts: 731

    Hi!
    Member
    from SoCal

    If you ever used a Beverly throatless shear, then you know to buy the best you can afford. Its one of those tools you cant get a good cheaper version of. You can find them used and if you do try it first before you buy. People try cutting stuff thats to much for the shear and f-up the aligment or bend them. A great tool.:cool:
     
  22. TexasHardcore
    Joined: May 30, 2003
    Posts: 5,299

    TexasHardcore
    Member
    from Austin-ish

    I'm in a tight spot and I have to spring for a cheap HF version for now. I'm going to buy one tomorrow after work. But the Beverly is certainly in the near future. I figure I can get atleast a year out of the HF shear then spring for the Beverly and give the HF shear to a friend or someone who could use it that finds themself in the same situtation I'm in now, which is: I need to cut metal and I don't have alot of money.

    I think the fact that Beverly tools have been made & assembled in the same building since day one is something to be proud of, and it makes spending that extra chunk of change for a quality American made product worth every penny.

    Since I have the new job, with better pay, I've started an equipment account at my bank where I toss in some change from each check for future QUALITY tool purchases. The Beverly B-2 is on the list, and I'm looking forward to the day I finally get mine.
     
  23. cal1954
    Joined: Aug 1, 2008
    Posts: 107

    cal1954
    Member
    from Omaha, NE

    Buy the Beverly. Don't even consider buying the Harbor Freight shear. I have the Beverly B-3 and its worth every penny. My advice like many others spend the money for the beverly.
     
  24. TexasHardcore
    Joined: May 30, 2003
    Posts: 5,299

    TexasHardcore
    Member
    from Austin-ish

    I don't have that many pennies yet. Maybe you can send some my way?

    I've used a friends HF shear, and it did fine, although a little flimsy, it still made the cuts in the sheetmetal like it was designed to do with no issues. Worth $89 in my opinion.

    I've also used a Beverly B-3, and it was like cutting butter with clean edges and smooth radiuses. Like I said...it will come in the future.
     
  25. frazzledsmythy
    Joined: Aug 30, 2009
    Posts: 70

    frazzledsmythy
    Member

    Nothing Shears more Cleverly than a beverly! I have a B1 & B2 and they both will be buried with me! Any body wanna trade a number 2 Edwards shear capable of cutting 3/4" steel bar for a # 3 Beverly ? Any other interesting trade would also be cool! Also looking for a 4 foot Lathe in "decent " order. Hmmm what else do I want????????
     
  26. KaiserKruiser
    Joined: Jan 9, 2009
    Posts: 84

    KaiserKruiser
    Member

    I have a Harbor freight shear and it gets the job done but its not as nice as the real Beverly shear at work.
     
  27. TexasHardcore
    Joined: May 30, 2003
    Posts: 5,299

    TexasHardcore
    Member
    from Austin-ish

    That's all I need for now. B-2 will arrive when the wallet gets fatter.
     
  28. Beverly Shear Mfg
    Joined: Sep 1, 2009
    Posts: 42

    Beverly Shear Mfg
    Member
    from Dyer,IN

    Only have a second, but have you ever noticed that virtually everyone who has worked at a shop anywhere in the US refers to bench-mounted shears as Beverly's. The brand and recognition of the product will be outlasted by only the product. As the grandson of the founder as son of the owner, I am very proud to know that the family business has NEVER compromised on the quality of the product in all these years. How often does one idea and one concept for a product lead to a product that has gone essentually unchanged in 78 years. HARDLY EVER. So the doors to the shop will remain open for as long as they can and the same quality product will be going out those doors to you guys that need them.
     
  29. Dyce
    Joined: Sep 12, 2006
    Posts: 1,979

    Dyce
    Member

    I have both. I started out with the China model. The blades chipped away like they were made out of glass. I have a B-1 now. I lucked into it for $100.00. I wish I had the B-2 or 3 but it's not in the budget.

    The Beverly is a great tool!! It's great to see you on HAMB!!
    Jeff
     
  30. hugh m
    Joined: Jul 18, 2007
    Posts: 2,143

    hugh m
    Member
    from ct.

    Not to many people can say they are the best at anything in life, but Beverly shears are right there. All you weenies need to quit rationalizing, buy American, and get on with it.( tried to put one of those smiley faces in here, but does't work...) There's used ones out there.
     

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