Has any body doen it? SBC in 1957 Fairlane?

Just say no! I'll give your buddy a Y Block to rebuild...

 

Since it's Thanksgiving I'll say this: I'm thankful for this quote...now I'll be laughing my ass off all day long.

I've had two of them. They're heavier, they ALWAYS leak oil because of that external pump, they CAN make the decent power but only if you buy high dollar intakes and heads, and the engineers at Ford mounted what should be simple adjustment hardware backwards so the tasks take twice as long.

If Y blocks are so great...Why have I been trying to sell the running Y block that's taking up space in my garage for over 6 months with no interest? I can (and probably will) GIVE it away for free to a coworker...but that's just it...if it was worth a shit someone would have paid for it. Case in point: the post above me has another one that nobody wants to pay for.

But in the end, doesn't it all just come down to a block of metal with holes in it for pistons to rotate a crank? Who gives a shit what brand it is?

 

hi ken glad to see you on this thead your one of the few guy,s on this thead thats trying to help and not crying that he wants a sbc in his car cause it,s his chioce hope to see you at lead east
teddyp the pope of lead east

ps a 57 ford with a sbc in it is worth as much as one with any other ford with a ford motor and sometimes more to a real hot rodder

 

If for no other reason do it just to piss people off who think their way is the "right" way. Too many people think that everyone should only do what they think is the proper way to do things. I can't wait till my brother gets done with the '68 SS 396 Chevelle he has. He has a 347 small block Ford to go in it...and just to piss off the Chevy resto guys he's putting a straight axle under it.....

 

Gee,Probably the only chevy ever put in a Ford.

 

I'm a GM guy, in fact am in the process of mating a '78 LeSabre frame to a '55 Special s door sedan. It's all Buick though, a 455 in it. And a "real" Pontiac, a '67 with a 428 sitting next to it.

I'm also the contact for GM Performance Parts at my dealership job.

So you know how I vote? A 352-390-406-427 FORD.

 

Its in Germany, so wouldn't it be easier to put a Mercedes or BMW v8 in it?

 

...and to think that folks piss on my boots when I rant about sbc in a Mopar...maybe next time y'all could help a guy out....


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It's funny that in your rambling, incoherent diatribe on Chevy motors, you didn't list one valid reason as to why you feel they're inferior. Please enlighten us

 

It isn't hard to adapt a BBC or SBC in a 57 Ford. For a SBC you can either get an early Nova oil pan or you can use the rear sump pan and recess the firewall back a bit. I had a post about adapting a BBC in a 57 Ford which everyone seemed to get upset about. Don't let these people discourage you and build your hot rod the way you want. I have a Chevy engine in my '57 Gasser and have not felt the least bit bad about doing so. I also think a 500 Cadillac or a Pontiac would go great in one and plan on doing so to my '57 one day. People will get mad, but it isn't their car. Hot rodding is all about using what you have.

 

NNNOOOOOOOOOOOo its justnot right!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

It's been done. I've seen sbc chevys in everything, even motorcycles, croselys, and bar stools.

 

Man, I hope ya go with a Y.
a 292 in decent shape is not that hard to find and the things last for ever.

 

I must have been fairy coherent as you got my point....

But, ask and you shall receive..... (now talking older stuff here)

1'st and foremost - dizzy in the back, the absolute worst place you can put one, can't get to it to work on it, and just a bitch.

Now, not all Fords are in the front, like a y-block, but at least they leaned it over to make it a little easier... I'm thinking they learend after that and moved it were it should be. Smart guys.

Another thing, while on this subject...pleople always have issues w/firewall clearence w/a lot of older stuff and have to have to clearence the firewall to clear the dis. Oh yea, that makes it even easier to work on!

I don't know what it is but it seems like chevy's are notorious for worn out cams.
Always hear about guys adjusting lifters on Chevy's. I hear more chevys that sound like their missing than running like they should, and believe most of that is because of the valvetrain.

Then stupid stuff like -

Ever try and take the valve cover off a small block chevy w/factory a/c?? Yea after fighting w/the bolts and bracket on the compressor just to get 1 bolt off...makes you want to throw something.

Oh and the factory exhaust manifolds..the way they come up next to the valve cover can make installing the bottom bolts a bitch.

What the hell is up w/the fuel pump rod/extention thing?? What? Cheverolet couldn't come up w/a design that has a fuel pump that has an arm long enough so you wouldn't have to deal w/that? Not to mention how close it is to the frame on the trucks. One bolt is just a whore to mess with.

I can go on, but don't really care that much.

It's just stupid stuff that bothers me. I couldn't care less about what horse power makes what, and well.. if you do this..... I don't give a rats ass. I'm more concerned about ease of mantience and practicality of the engine.

Yea, every engine will have it's quirks, and do not in any way to claim to know every engine ever built, I'm just going by what I have experienced in over 30 years of messing w/cars.

My dad was a car dealer for almost 30 years and he has owned more cars/and trucks than most, so not just going by the experience of owning 1 or 2 Chevys and or 1 or 2 Fords like most people. I have personaly owned well over 150 cars myself, hell I have over 20 right now. Including a really nice 95 Corvette.

W/that and what I have seen and experienced there is no way in hell you could ever convience me that chevy built a better engine.

Wanna kill the value of a car?? Put a 305 in it...even Chevy guys don't want to buy one w/a 305!!!

 

Did anybody notice that the OP is in Germany? I dont like to cross bread either but the choices might be limited over there. Sometimes we are spoiled to what we want to build because our resources here are almost unlimited. If a sbc is what the man wants lets help him put it in there correctly. I say keep the sbc chevy and sell the ford. Tim

 

Don't give up,thats how you fix them old FORDs

 

if we put a list of bad things about motors be it ford,gm, or mopar the list would be a mile long why does it bother you so much that people like sbc motors? i don,t work on cars to make a living at this point in life but i have in the past and most people that work on cars for a living that are good will tell you that the all suck but they just like one make more then the next so as far as getting you point not no but i,ll respect your opion and did chevy have a better engine yes sometimes and so did morpar,and yes even ford thats why we use what we have or like just my 2 cents

 

Good God thats the most sacrilegious thing I have ever heard.

 

So this thread motivated me to do it....it's been a challenge...I have a 390 FE Interceptor block to put in it but not $3,000 to throw at it. I have an 80' SBC that is balanced and makin 400+ sitting on a tire in my garage...so I took a chunk out of the firewall and shoved it in with the og oil pan. The heater is going to be an issue but I have driven 400hp on snow for many years and this car is not going to experience that so heat ...is the last thing on my mind. Back to hot rodding...work with what you got and if it wins you races or.....the guy that pulls up at the light says: fuck that I'm gonna turn left...it's all the same=old car, sounds mean, runs great, spanks anybody in the valley(Golden). If you got the skills, do it...if not buy a 96' Camaro spin it backwards at 90mph and kill your two best friends in an ass on collision.

 

yes

 

This guy bitches about rear mounted distributors on chevys, then acknowledges that the Y block had one too.

He complains about adjusting rockers on a chevy, and the y block was only offered with a solid cam, requiring lifter adjustment

He complains about the chevy fuel pump but neglects to mention the Y block devil starter drive, or notoriously leaky external oil pump.

SBC and SBF both have substantially similar exhaust manifold bolt configurations.

My point? Every engine has it's own quirks. I hate that my Mopar exhaust studs piss out my coolant if the stud comes off with the nut. I just hear a lot of blind hatred on here, no rhyme or reason to it. If you hate chevy motors for no reason, or just because its cool to hate chevy motors since they're so popular and it's cool to be rebellious, just say so. That way we will know not to pay attention to your outrageously biased rhetoric.

Sorta like how people hate on the Yankees for winning so many championships

 

I have a extra 460/C-6 and I am thinking about putting it in a 57 chevy (or another year) to get back at those who think chevy motors belong in everything,if I did not have other projects it would be done sooner.

 

That's not a bad idea, the next owner can change it out should they choose but, doing it "to get back at those who think chevy motors belong in everything" well, that's just silly.

 

Somebody mentioned a T-Bird with Chevy power. Here is the Late Joey Saltamacchia's BBC powered T-Bird.This car has been faithfully and respectfully ( to Joey) restored and shown by Bob Salerno.

 

It may sound silly to you but if you think people are getting their pants in a wad about a sbc in a 57 ford a ford motor in a 57 chevy will really get the chevy diehards crying and I think it will be funny to hear them get a taste of their own medicine so I am going to do it if I get the time.

 

is this a hot rod site or an old ford restorers site? i like hot rods and as such, have allways thought that a hot rod was an older car with a bigger/faster and maybe of diffrent linage engine. come on guys, ansewer the mans question and leave the personal prefrences to someone who wants to know. engine swaps and cutting things is the hot rod way.

 

Hell I have a 37 Plymputh p/u that your 460 with C-6 would fit just fine !
I love Ford engines !

RetroJim

 

Send it over here but you wont get it back if I put the 460 in it,if I do anything with this motor when I take it out of my beater truck is to put it in a chevy to make a statement that I am tired of looking at chevy motors stuck in everything. If I would find a 57 ford 2 door post then I would forget about wasting the time putting it in a boring tri 5 chevy so who knows but I do want to put it in a chevy first just to ruffle some feathers and have some fun.

 

FE motor fits great, like it was made for the '57, but headers are a problem. You sure don't want to use those flat cast iron things. Small-block Ford is the best bet. Even a 5.0 would be fun. Back in the 60's, there was a '57 T-Bird running around Syracuse with a 327 PG combo in it. Purists were outraged.

You can always use the ZZ4 and put some faux Cobra valve covers on it, like so many Cobra-kit builders do.

FC

 

Advise your buddy to paint the chev blue and throw it in the bay this way it won't frighten the fish