Have a "Survivor?" Corvette guys say otherwise. (TM ) Read !

you dont need a blown big block to break the rear

 

So it only applies to old cars?
All old cars or just old Corvettes?
Do they get or are they trying to get royalties or a cease & desist from that TV reality show SURVIVOR?

I think it's time to write thousands of computer generated letters to trademark each and every word in the English Dictionary, or at least attempt to just to show how ludicrous the whole concept of trademarking individual words is.

 

A buddy of mine years ago went to a Corvette swap meet with a T-shirt on that said " Corvettes make great parts cars" He was lucky to escape with his life. Lighten up vette guys, its just tupperware. Nutz

 

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And I reaally hate them because they've made 61-62 Vettes too damn expensive.


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I feel the same way. My dad had a solid black '62 with a later LT1 350 in it (1970 LT1 not the new shit) when I was a little kid. I remember riding in it and hanging on to the grab handle on the dash as he went what seemed to be impossibly fast at the time.

That Corvette is one of the things that hooked me on cars in general...and probably why I like pretty stout small blocks. I would really like to own a similar '61 or '62 someday, but with prices the way they are I doubt it'll ever happen.

Some people absolutely hate Corvettes...I wonder how much of that has to do with the people that own them?

Personally I really like all the straight rear axle years...and I have a serious weakness for the Vettes that were turned into drag cars in the early-mid '60s like Mazmanian's.

 

Quick! Someone email them and see if they will trademark 'barn fresh". Maybe people will quit slappin that on every car with some rust...

 

I'd really love a '57 with a straight axle and a 409 - I'd take it to all the Corvette shows and see who the first guy to stroke out was. I'd also love a dual-quad, four-speed stocker, but I wouldn't leave it all original - playing with old cars is too much fun to not modify them at least a little bit.

 

so does this mean that survivors of the concetration camps can no longer use this word?

 

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so does this mean that survivors of the concetration camps can no longer use this word?

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Actually, no. They have only trademarked it in reference to CARS' descriptions, and that's probably why they were able to get it registered. You can use the term survived, or survives to describe your car without a problem. I think every one should use the term survivor in a car ad just to keep them running around to enforce the trademark. Or, name your car The Survivor. Maybe someone will come out with a new SUV called Survivor - that would really drive them nuts.

Mutt

 

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At any show I go to, as I casually check out a vette with the owner nearby ( He's usually the guy with the corvette hat, vette shirt, vette gold charm and if you are lucky, the vette driving gloves) I tell this joke to my buddy loud enough for anyone to hear :

An ant & elephant were walking thru the jungle talking when the elephant falls in a trappers hole. He yells to the ant to help him get out of the hole. The ant runs to the nearest village & gets a Corvette and drives it back to the hole. He ties a rope around the elephants trunk & the other end of the rope to the vette & jumps in & floors the vette & pulls the elephant out of the hole. The next day the ant & elephant are again walking thru the jungle & this time the ant falls in a hole & can't get out. He hollers to the elephant for help who walks over to the hole, and drops his dick into the hole. The ant climbs up the elephants wang & gets out of the hole. The moral of the story........ When you got a big dick, you don't need a Corvette !!!

Corvette guys HATE that joke

 

The editorial in Hemming's Musclecar mag was about this recently. I think there are other words that Bloomington trademarked too. But Hemming's had to go through the whole months ads to check and see if anyone had called any make car a survivor. They were threatened with a law suit along with the owner of the car. The VW thing is a fact, they had people going to VW shows to make sure no one had printed T-shirts or hats with a logo on them. How about the TV show?

 

BigDaddy - that was hilarious!!! I have to remember that one.

I used to work for a guy with a "show-points" corvette a 63 split window, he would tell me that they take mirrors and verify that the undercarriage bolts are correct and have the proper paint marking on them!! He embezzled the company, cost me $$$ and fucken ran it into the ground, what a POS.

I never liked the vettes, I used to work on them as a mechanic out of high school and everyone I rode in rode like shit and were a bitch to work on. I also remember the Leisure Suit Vette Crowd from the disco days and what pricks they were.

Okay - I rambeled and ranted enough

 

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sorry to bring another vw topic into this, but a few years back, volkswagen of america, hired a company to go out cease and desist any business using vw, slug bug, bug, buggy, bug shop, etc...
apparently they had trademarked all those words, and were now enforcing the laws. you could pay 5000.00 in fines, or they could take any merchandise with those words right off your shelves.
it really caused a riff among vw owners who had old vw's and new vw's.


i personally think it's rediculous that you can even trademark a word.
i think i'll trandemark the word,.. "and"... i'll be rich in no time!!

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Yeah and Harley did ti with "hog".. they suck just as much....

 

These fuckers are going to give CORVETTE SUMMER a bad name.

 

Let me say this first---I AIN'T taking up for them(the BG guys)--just trying to make some sense of this.

Modernbeat pretty much nailed it on page one(I'm still wondering why this topic is at page 3 ) It's basically to keep every jack-leg car show promotor and gold-chain pseudo-car salesman from misrepresenting what the Bloomington Gold SURVIVOR(tm) truly is---a Corvette that has SURVIVED in an unmolested, original state, complete with all the nuts and bolts and crayon marks that it was born with. How many ads for cars for sale have you seen with the term "rare" or "original" or "collector" or "limited"? Yeah, a bunch. All the BG guys want to do is keep it real. They're not doing a Donald Trump and trying to copyright "you're FIRED" (what a MORON, btw)
It's become a regular occurence in the Corvette world for sellers and promotors to use phrases like "gold certified"(which USED to mean something). A TRUE survivor is special, and a piece of history, and should be recognized as such. No different than pulling a traditional car out of 50 years of barn slumber and KEEPING it like it was originally built.

I totally agree with a bunch of the comments about Corvette owners in general---that's a big part of why I'm not "club" active anymore, but I still belong to the NCCC(whose owners race and flog the shit out of their cars) Even Duntov said he liked that bunch, cause "they use the cars for what they're designed for!"
Now that I've come out of the closet.....
I've owned about 35 plastic pigs in my lifetime, currently have 4, and NONE are stockers---there ARE exceptions to the rule("Corvette people are_______"--you fill in the blank)

Sorry to perpetuate this thread, but it seems to be the proverbial mountain made from a molehill.

 

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Modernbeat pretty much nailed it on page one(I'm still wondering why this topic is at page 3 ) It's basically to keep every jack-leg car show promotor and gold-chain pseudo-car salesman from misrepresenting what the Bloomington Gold SURVIVOR(tm) truly is---a Corvette that has SURVIVED in an unmolested, original state, complete with all the nuts and bolts and crayon marks that it was born with. How many ads for cars for sale have you seen with the term "rare" or "original" or "collector" or "limited"? Yeah, a bunch. All the BG guys want to do is keep it real. They're not doing a Donald Trump and trying to copyright "you're FIRED" (what a MORON, btw)


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Did you read the article? Did you look at any of the other BS they're pulling? Like have Hemmings not allow you to call your car, any car, a survivor. They sent them a Cease & Desist over this shit. They are out to control the use of the word survivor as it pertains to cars, and car. it spells it out in butmunches letter....

 

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It's basically to keep every jack-leg car show promotor and gold-chain pseudo-car salesman from misrepresenting what the Bloomington Gold SURVIVOR(tm) truly is... All the BG guys want to do is keep it real. They're not doing a Donald Trump and trying to copyright "you're FIRED" (what a MORON, btw)


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Could they not have tradematked "Bloomington Gold Certified Survivor" or some abbreviation of it? Or did the CEO of BG's niece need a job so they created the position to go on a witch hunt to see who's misusing the trademark of the day?

This just goes to show that these dudes aren't aware that there are other segmentst of the car hobby outside Corvettes. Survivor means something completely different to hot rod/custom enthusiasts than it does to the BG crowd.

 

I remember when Harley did it and it was a different deal. They basically just wanted to approve of anything that had their name on it because there was such a proliferation of total shit on the market with their logo and they wanted to maintain some standards. The thing with VW was a lot more anal. There was a shop in S.Dak called the Od Volks Home and had been around dam near as long as there had been beetles. VW made them change it. It has been Old Erv's Home since.

 

Here is the message I sent to them I know I am a bit out of context but I think I got the point across. I always wanted to get late 50s vette and stuff a 427 FE ford into it just to piss everybody off, some day I will find one.

So you are saying I cannot call my 65 Cadillac Superior hearse that is pretty much all orginial a SURVIVOR unless I have your permission. How about the winner of Survivor on TV do they need your permission hmmm Let me see if I am in a train wreck and I live through it do I need Your permission to call myself a SURVIVOR how about I beat Cancer Would I Need you permission to be called a Cancer SURVIVOR? Look If this message sounds stupid maybe you should look at yourselves.

 

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hell yeah, i'm gonna buy that one on dvd right now just because of that

 

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I remember when Harley did it and it was a different deal. They basically just wanted to approve of anything that had their name on it because there was such a proliferation of total shit on the market with their logo and they wanted to maintain some standards. The thing with VW was a lot more anal. There was a shop in S.Dak called the Od Volks Home and had been around dam near as long as there had been beetles. VW made them change it. It has been Old Erv's Home since.

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Actually NO, they went after legit businesses just because of "hog" in their name. http://www.the-hog-farm.com/ They weren't even using Harley. That's what I'm talking about. And they sued Honda over sounding to much like a Harley, that's bullshit any way you look at it. It was shitty of them, VW, and now these asshats with the "survivor" BS...

 

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I remember when Harley did it and it was a different deal. They basically just wanted to approve of anything that had their name on it because there was such a proliferation of total shit on the market with their logo and they wanted to maintain some standards. The thing with VW was a lot more anal. There was a shop in S.Dak called the Od Volks Home and had been around dam near as long as there had been beetles. VW made them change it. It has been Old Erv's Home since.

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Actually NO, they went after legit businesses just because of "hog" in their name. http://www.the-hog-farm.com/ They weren't even using Harley. That's what I'm talking about. And they sued Honda over sounding to much like a Harley, that's bullshit any way you look at it. It was shitty of them, VW, and now these asshats with the "survivor" BS...

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http://www.the-hog-farm.com/articles.html

intresting reading

 

Well, the guy actually wrote me a letter back today.
Said he appreciated my perspective, and that I raised several good points. Also liked that I was respectful and a couple other nice things. I guess I was "On" at 2:30am when I wrote him.
Said all the other writers that have written about it spoke from emotion and one sided, etc. and said he'd like a chance to talk with me and tell his side--though he admits it may not change my mind, but he'd like a shot at it.
I'm going to talk to him in two weeks.
In the Mopar group, there is the OE Certified judging, and that's the benchmark. It's trade marked, for reasons listed in earlier posts. If the BG guys had done "Corvette Survivor" or some such thing, than fine. I agree with that, so they can protect their show judging, etc.
But to blanket ALL cars is just dumb.
If anyone is interested in the outcome of the conversation, I'll post it when it's done. (And I did actually say in my letter to him that "Corvette enthusiasts are perceived as gold-chainer elitists by the rest of the hobby...is this action on your part going to help or hurt how the rest of the hobby perceives BG and corvette enthusiasts?"
And he said I was polite! I wonder what they usually hear?
-Brad

 

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And I did actually say in my letter to him that "Corvette enthusiasts are perceived as gold-chainer elitists by the rest of the hobby...is this action on your part going to help or hurt how the rest of the hobby perceives BG and corvette enthusiasts?"
And he said I was polite! I wonder what they usually hear?
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Seems the gold-chainers over at Bloomington Gold have trademarked the word "Survivor" ...

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Maybe I should trademeark the word "Fuck",
and any obvious derrivitives like "Gold Chain Dumb Fuck".

 

honestly does this really impact anything? You can no longer use the word survivor in what case? They have control of it in any sense, so they can sue the tv show survivor now? Or they just somehow have control of it when referring to an old car? How/Why is it even possible to trademark a common adjective? Honestly, I dont understand how this could impact anyone........

please explain to my why I am wrong in my train of thought

 

Sooo Brad, you gonna do an article on this?

If you put this in one of the mags you`ll have that many more people telling them what idiots they`re being!

 

You could just tell them you accidentally misspelled "survivur".

 

the group i hang with is serious in vettes and went to bloomington in 95 with a 69 black on black, totally untouched the finest , one owner left in the garage car ,anyhow it got a 99 point rating, 8 thousand miles, we got gigged on a master cylinder with out bleeders, even thought they came with and with out either was correct , but not to the series of judges,being of sound mind my buddy, he started taking bids on it, and it went way high, then he said ,well i guess i am gonna just race it put a blower on it and run it , hell i cant be the guy that sold just a 99 point car ,or be seen driving a 99 point car, and we moved on , this is from a guy that carries 40 large where ever he goes ,but looks like he needs a free lunch, anyhow we bought a few bricks at the corvette museum and whenever we are there we talk people over to the bricks and just drone on and on about how my brick is slighter off color and his is more polished,christ ,they can't take a joke

 

Need a big stick? Look up a Corvette owner's ass.