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Hot Rods header wood on 30' model A

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by marc billen, Mar 23, 2021.

  1. marc billen
    Joined: Oct 1, 2020
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    from lakeside

    ive read through almost every thread on this but i have what may be a stupid question.
    i bought a coupe and the header was missing, ive bought the parts to replace, do I need to remove the visor in install the header? its welded in
     
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  2. Stogy
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    It is nailed into it and there is a panel beneath attached to the front of it...so I think it certainly would be advisable...let's wait for more A Bone Tech...

    This Thread might be the bullet your looking for...

    https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/1930-model-a-coupe-wooden-header-problems.609304/
     
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  3. lostone
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    I had t0, to replace the header in my 31 tudor. Also be advised that I had to work my header over to
    get it to fit. It was too big and I ended up taking it in and out several times to cut it down to fit.

    It was too tall so I had to install it, install the lower metal cover, draw a pencil mark around it on the
    top side, remove it, cut it down, reinstall. Then once that fit I had to taper the top sides of the wood
    header to fit the side panels over the doors too.

    Maybe, and its possible, it just may have been my luck too!
     
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  4. winduptoy
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    If you use wood for a header it may well sound good but is sure to catch on fire....
     
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  5. Stogy
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    As @lostone said there was a fair bit of rework to fit the header to have the side roof panels and the visor fit correctly...If I recall once the nails are out the visor has 4 screws left and it can be removed...and there was a form of caulking or sealant to help waterproof the ends...
     
  6. Dino 64
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    If you’re talking about the wood header, yes you have to remove the visor. Visor has two screws one on each A pillar towards the top. Some visors where spot welded to the A pillar as well. You need to cut that weld, then you can remove the nails and it’s free ! :)
     
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  7. Stogy
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    :rolleyes:...Pretty in depth but yeah...just more to aid in gitten' er done...;)

    If you slide the needle over to 7 or so minutes you get past some blah blah...and actually on the subject at hand...certainly not a Hamber production by any means...:oops:

     
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  8. Redrodguy
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    I have a '31 coupe with visor and top welded in. A hammer, wood chisels and a LOT of swearing will have the old one out in about 3 days - in pieces no bigger than a screwdriver handle. Been there - done that. The nails were a bitch to cut/grind off and cleanup was time consuming. There was a pine tar looking waterproofing above the wood. Not sure if a previous owner used it or if it was original. Once the old header is out, you're in for a few more days fitting the new one. It can be done. A 2" sanding disc and a flap disc on an angle grinder is useful in shaping the new header. Mark, cut, fit, repeat...

    Sorry - just realized this thread was from March.
    Carry on..
     
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  9. shortypu
    Joined: Dec 22, 2010
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    Like Redrodguy said it does have to be removed and is a pain.Even after its in you have to work the metal and sand the wood to get the visor to fit good. IMG_0574.JPG IMG_0570.JPG AEBI0789.JPG
     
  10. lostone
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    I cheated I used a belt sander to remove a bunch of wood.
     

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