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Technical Help! Flexplate Clearance Issues

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by ClassicIron67, Aug 15, 2023.

  1. ClassicIron67
    Joined: Aug 15, 2023
    Posts: 3

    ClassicIron67

    Hi everyone, I tried to do my due diligence to find if others have had this issue but came up empty. I have a 383 Stroker with a 168 tooth flexplate and new PowerMaster starter. When I installed the starter I discovered the starter gear was already contacting the flex plate even before engaging/receiving power. Taking a closer look the flex plate is also extremely close to contacting a rear main seal stud on the back of the block. It also measures much closer to the rear of the block than all my other small block 350s, leading me to believe this is a flexplate issue, not a starter issue. I confirmed with my engine builder the flexplate was correct and oriented appropriately. So what could have caused this? I’m looking at a flexplate spacer as a possible solution but it seems this shouldn’t be an issue to begin with, maybe I’m overlooking something... Any help is greatly appreciated!
     

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  2. 19Eddy30
    Joined: Mar 27, 2011
    Posts: 3,826

    19Eddy30
    Member
    from VA

    By looks of your pic , starter using inside bolts ,
    Looks to be 168 tooth flex plate,
    Is the converter towers pads / humps facing transmission? ( on flexplate )
    Maker of Flex plate?
     
  3. ClassicIron67
    Joined: Aug 15, 2023
    Posts: 3

    ClassicIron67

    Yes, raised pads on the flex plate are facing the converter. The flex plate is a Pioneer FRA-159.
     
  4. 19Eddy30
    Joined: Mar 27, 2011
    Posts: 3,826

    19Eddy30
    Member
    from VA

    Gen 1 block or one piece main seal ,
    2 different flex plate , I dont believe same anyways ( bolt pattern) ,Not @ my shop to verify,,
    the only thing I can think of Flex welded wrong or crank flange for Flex / fly machined to deep ,
    ( you said ring looks to close to block /main seal)
    Ring gear on both Gen 1 & 1 piece should be in same location
     
  5. ClassicIron67
    Joined: Aug 15, 2023
    Posts: 3

    ClassicIron67

    1 piece rms. I’ll add more pics once I pull the trans off and get an actual measurement of the difference in spacing between this 383 and the other 350s before the flex plate also comes back off.
     
  6. Kerrynzl
    Joined: Jun 20, 2010
    Posts: 3,593

    Kerrynzl
    Member

    Before you pull the trans, Unbolt the converter and slide it back towards the trans.
    There should be 3/16" clearance between the flexplate and the converter pads [use a 3/16" drill bit to measure]

    If this ^^^^ measures OK ,then look at the starter [If not, it is the flexplate]
     
  7. lo-buk
    Joined: Nov 11, 2006
    Posts: 329

    lo-buk
    Member
    from kcmo

    You should be able to buy shims to move the starter further away from the starter bracket that bolts to the block.
     
  8. pprather
    Joined: Jan 10, 2007
    Posts: 8,883

    pprather
    Member

    I have a similar problem, but the opposite direction. My flex plate gear is too far from the engine block to allow me to use a stock type starter.

    In my case I had to use a mini starter and remove the internal shims to move it toward the rear of the car.

    My flex plate is genuine GM, but I believe the gear was installed to the flex incorrectly.
     

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