I just recently got this photo from my father. His good friend Lonnie (total car guy) would like to find out any info he can about the car, it is his wife's parents sitting in the car. I have seen people on here identify some really rare cars and/or pieces of cars, so I thought I would give it a shot. Thanks from a longtime lurker and seldom poster Tate
It had to have four (4) wooden spoke wheels, a front crank, no top and a spark advance so you could have the crank run back and break your jaw bone. THEN.... a snazzy woman to help round out the scene. Normbc9
Looks like a type of speedster. ie, some brand of car with fenders removed, and bodywork to make it go faster. Im not up with the brands before the twenties, there was so many of them. Im thinking someone may identify it by the grill.
I'd put the photo on this post: http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=483757&highlight=photos those guys can ID anything.
early teens Stutz Bearcat style (obviously) but I don't think it is there were dozens if not hundreds of auto manufactures back then, could have been any number of limited run cars.. looks a bit like a Premier too.. neat picture
that's no Jalopy! It was real expensive when it was new. I don't know the make or model but I can tell it is older then 1911. brass era for sure. Jared lol Paul beat me
yeah, i firmly believe you're using "Jalopy" in the wrong context. that is a well dressed and successful young couple, seated in a very large brass era car.... not a cut-down gow job. maybe if you could get that crest on the fuel tank blown up and clearer, it might identify the car. no front brakes; no chain drive; right hand drive; non-demountable wheels; radiator emblem out of focus... grrrr. where's my Clymer's book....
Looks similar to a 1911 Model 38 Buick...stripped down for a speedster. That logo was used on the fuel tanks in the early teens.
1913 Buick Speedster or 2 seat version thereof? http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-l_4cxc58ieY/Tf6YiSkfYUI/AAAAAAABmj4/yLEa5KihoBo/s1600/DSC_0748.JPG 1912: http://www.rmauctions.com/images/cars/mm07/MM07_r114_1.jpg -rick
I'd say that it was a pretty well turned out Buick speedster. The shape of the hood and grill does match photos of 1913 Buicks.
I think we may have a winner the '13 Buick picture has some very minor differences, number of spokes, spreader at frame ends but too many matches to not be it, frame rivets, hub caps, headlight mounts, crank, radiator...
Kind of looks like a Maxwell, grille and eliptical springs up front. 1911 Maxwell Mascotte in this picture.
1913 Buick. I can't tell you what model though. Possibly Model 24-25 or perhaps a 30. I wonder if it has some racing history. What more can you tell us about the couple. Names, etc...
I've seen that front emblem somewhere, but I can't remember where, or what. It's driving me crazy! It's not a Stutz, nor an REO, nor a Buick, Pierce, Studebaker, Hudson, Marmon, EMF, Premier, Packard, Caddy, Simplex, Knox, Hupmobile, ... 1912 Haynes? I dunno. maybe Buick, but there are some differences, like the depth/thickness of the piano hinge on the hood, the surround around the hand crank, length of the engine compartment, wheels, etc...
10 spoke woodies. I am gonna' guess Mercer. (but it is truly a guess) Well turned out couple, in a a very nice period car.
Ok, I realize jalopy isn't the correct term, but I only had a few minutes to post on a short break at work, I wanted to use something other than "car" and being that this is the Jalopy Journal I couldn't get that word out of my head. The photo is titled edward_l_and_myra_ e_miller_vogel-1918.jpg so I am guessing they were Edward L Vogel and Myra E Miller Vogel, I will have to send an email to confirm that though. Unfortunately that is all the info they have on the photo. Thanks for the help so far.
The more pictures I look at, the more I think it is a Model 40 touring frame with a speedster tank and seat. The pics I see of a model 40 had the same crank surround on the radiator and had the emblem, while the model 30 had no emblem but large Buick script instead. Also, the frame looks longer than the model 30. Ok, so I got more info and I read the original email wrong. It was Lonnie's mother's parents(not his wife's), so his grandparents. They lived in Sumter SC and died very your of TB, Lonnie's mother was 9 when her father died and 12 when her mother died. The photo below is supposed to be of Edward Vogel outside of his motorcycle shop in Sumter
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