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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by 1959apache, Jul 18, 2013.

  1. Dane
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    from Soquel, CA

  2. Dane
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    Dane
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    http://www.pepboys.com/product/details/5013403/00873/
     
  3. Dane
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    Also, if those are not right check out the second entry for plews-edelmann -

    http://www.google.com/search?q=5/16...-US&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&startIndex=&startPage=1

    MALE ELBOW
    Edelmann Everco Weatherhead Tube Pipe
    Part No. Part No. Part No. Size Thread
    122220 400A 402X2 1/8" 1/8"
    122320 400B 402X3 3/16" 1/8"
    122420 400C 402X4 1/4" 1/8"
    122440 400CC 402X4X4 1/4" 1/4"
    122520 400D 402X5 5/16" 1/8"
    122540 400DD 402X5X4 5/16" 1/4"
    122620 400EE 402X6X2 3/8" 1/8"
    122640 400E 402X6 3/8" 1/4"
    122660 400EEE 402X6X6 3/8" 3/8"

    122860 400F 402X8 1/2" 3/8"
     
  4. fortynut
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    Some folks have a sense of humor, and some folks live with their shorts in a bunch. I know it's nice to be able to access the HAMB Brain Trust but brother, keep your sense of humor. If a guy suggests his little sister might be able to help you, go with it. She might wear combat boots, have red hair and sling wrenches like Rosy The Riveter. Don't bad mouth the man. He was just telling you what a lot of us who worked on this crap did before Al Gore. B.A.G. I call it. We adapted, improvised and overcame. Someone said it better'n me: A kind word turneth away anger. Suck it up and make it smoke.
     
  5. 1959apache
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    that has a npt fitting on the end, not a brake line fitting.

    I am going to stop by harbor freight to pick up a set of brake line pliers, will also stop by another HAMB'ers house to see what he has in his bins, and maybe give the hydraulic shop a call.

    Of course I have about 5 bins of misc nuts bolts and other random things, but not what I need... typical! :D
     
  6. i have both a Weathead (which Napa carries) and an Edelmann catalog here and the fitting i understand the OP wants is not in either of them

    or am i not understanding what he wants?
     
  7. I wouldn't go all the way to dumb ass, I'm not the one who's having trouble here over some transmission lines.

    You said it, not me, and I really don't remember if it was this thread or your other one. But anyway you said that lmc sells the very same lines and that inline sells to lmc, BUT that lmc also separately sells the fittings. Ok now the cat is out of the bag, the secret has been told, the wizard has stepped out from behind the curtain.

    I've used inline before and have had zero problems, like most others.
    I've used lmc for the hard to find stuff with zero problems.
    Yea they can be overpriced on their stuff , however if its unobtainium and keeping you off the road - just how over priced is it ??? In your situation is 2.00 per fitting. That's a grand total of $4.00.

    If in fact your radiator is a correct and exact replica, and your truck is stock, and inline tubes lines don't fit and lmc's fittings don't work ,,,, well some one in this equation is completely FOS. So who is it? Out of the three involved here it must be either, A. The radiator company, B. inline tube, C. Lmc, oh wait there's an out side chance it could be GM thru some weird experimental crap together. That makes 4 Ahhhh the one last thing, 5 now is it? it could be you. Why you ???
    You say your truck is correct
    You say inline makes bad parts
    You say lmc has the wrong stuff
    You say you need weird ass fittings
    You can't get on the road because of this trans lines issue.
    And last but not least, you say I'm the dumb ass.
    Pretty sure the problem here is self evident and needs no further explanation.

    If it will make it easier for you, I'll give you the 4.00 lmc overcharge
     
  8. F&J
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    I looked at the other thread and I can't see everything like I could in person...but... if that line with the red cap has the correct end, why can't you just rebend the line 90* and screw it into the radiator?

    The fitting you asked about, I don't think it exists, for the "clocking" reasons already posted.

    [​IMG]
     
  9. F&J
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    most of us would have reached down there and twisted/rotated the cross-over part of the tube and screwed it in. No tools needed.
     
  10. Yes , and some of "THEM" would yell fraud and dumbass.
    All the while blaming everything that invokes some thinking past the end of the nose on everything and everyone else in the world.
     
  11. 1959apache
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    the fan comes in contact with this unless it is a tight enough 90 degree angle no matter if the fan spacer is in or out. That is why I am not going to be able to bend it unless I get something super close. That is where the 90 degree fitting comes in
     
  12. F&J
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    Can you take a pic with the fan blade right over the fitting area.

    Somebody will have an idea if they know what room is there.
     
  13. 1959apache
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    So your suggestion is bend the lines, which I can't do because it will be in contact with the fan regardless of the spacer being in or not because it is such a tight radius. Somehow GM did it fine, why should I expect something less from a company that makes "stock lines" and told me over the phone multiple times that they could do it before I purchased them. Explain that to me Mr. Magoo. If I wanted to do it myself I would have, but do not have the means to have anything make that tight of a turn, while being able to accurately single or double flare it so they won't leak all over the place without kinking the line somehow.

    And your second suggestion is buy LMC's fittings that don't work unless you have 1/4" NPT fitting in the trans cooler on the bottom of radiator, which I don't have. You can't read obviously, they can be found down the street for me for an couple bucks cheaper and still don't work, I also called LMC and they confirmed that they are 1/4" NPT male end.... I bought the local ones, tried them, they don't work, returned them, end of story. The radiator was designed for the flared lines to screw in, which are different than NPT.

    So, according to you, we come to the conclusion that I should strip out the radiator fittings with LMC's elbows -OR- purchase LMC's radiator with non-stock 1/4 NPT fittings and the elbows, just so Inline Tube can say they did their job?

    Why you can't just leave me the fuck alone is a mystery. Apparently someone has a crush :cool:
     
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  14. 1959apache
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    no problem, Ill try to get a shot today. The fitting closest to the lower rad. hose is more the issue than the drivers side

    and thanks for the help, I appreciate it
     
  15. 1959apache
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    We are on the same page, you and I are looking for the same thing
     
  16. Andy
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    There is no fitting that does what you want because a flare fitting is not adjustable in the direction it tightens to. You can go to two fittings with a pipe thread connection in the middle. This allows you to set the direction. It would be maybe a half inch longer than the fitting you are trying to buy but does not exist.
     
  17. jkski
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    dorman 43112 5/16 tee cut one end and braz the other side shut
     
  18. jwray
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    What is the thread size in the radiator? Is it 1/2-20?

    If it is then you can get this 1/2-20 to 1/8 npt adapter to get the trans cooler to 1/8 npt
    http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Male-Inverted-Flare-Adapters-1-8-Inch-NPT-Female,24770.html

    Then you can get this 90 degree fitting to hook your exsisting line to
    http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Walker-345-Radiator-Transmission-Cooler-90-Degree-Fittings,6770.html

    Becuase everything is brass you should be able to get it to snug up and clock in the direction you need and the profile should not stick out that far.
     
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  19. 1959apache
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    Yeah, I checked all of the stuff everyone posted and McMaster, I even had the purchasing lady at work check with her rep at McMaster. No dice.

    I was trying to do the setup you mention here yesterday, I was trying to find some locally, of course everyone else was out of the straight fittings that go in the radiator. After a 10 hour day at work, 3 hours of searching last night for these fittings and an hour trying random fittings to see if one worked in my parts bin, I decided to call it a night. One store had one fitting out of the two I needed. I guess I will have to go back to another store and see if I can get it to work.
     
  20. badshifter
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    Stock, the fan would not hit a fitting coming out of the radiator. Something is not as original.
    That said, (prepare yourself OP) fix/modify/ adapt that shit and stop fucking around. It's a trans cooler line, not a space station oxygen supply. Move on already.
     
  21. 1959apache
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    Whatever the tube nut size is on 5/16 flared line. I will check tonight after work.
     
  22. F&J
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    Yes, I'd like to see the space problem; I spent 10 years doing A/T swaps for customers 60-66 chevy/gmc pickups and I just don't recall running into this space problem. However most were SBC and the few that I did with 6-250's, I just dont recall a problem.

    One was my ex's 66 mint 50k mile suburban 250 that I swapped in a TH350, and I am positive I bought 2 new radiators that had the cooling fitting holes like yours, and I sure don't recall a problem with the lines. the other new rad went into my v8 63 sub, so it had plenty of space.
     
  23. 1959apache
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    It sounds like you are the man to talk to then:

    I either need to have the spacer in or a fan shroud. I am trying to go with what is cheaper and should have been a faster fix (the fittings).

    This inline 6 runs at 210-215 in traffic when it is like 80 degrees out when the fan spacer is not in (about 2-3 inches of space). It is going to start approaching 100 here soon, so I need to get it fixed before that happens.

    New t-stat @ 190, good coolant mix, the old coolant looked good, I know this is not right to be running that hot. I put the fan spacer back in (after taking it out since I had to temporarily rig the lines after removing the radiator) the other day before I swapped the lines and it was back down to 190 and did not deviate for the short time it was in.

    The fan shrouds the repop shops sell are waaaaay expensive, more than they should be. I can make my own, but I didn't want to take away from the originality of the truck with some gaudy looking thing that I had to scrape together in a hurry.
     

  24. Well I can see the problem here.
    Apparently you think it's me and that's fine. It's also radiator supplier, inline and
    Lmc. I'm sure that if you had a dog or cat or wife it's their fault in some way too.

    I think it's time to put your big boy pants on and stop this victim mentality.
    Here's the reality of the situation, if I understand your posts correctly, you are walking because this is your driver and its off the road. You can waist energy and cry about how unfair it is because you paid 45.00 plus shipping for trans lines ( yet I get called a dumbass) that you think should jump out of the box and fit. Well sunshine there's very very very few things that fit perfectly without some modification. I don't care what it is or how much it costs you'll have to do something to most anything to get it to fit. The sooner you accept that the happier you'll be.

    The fittings in the radiator are changeable the majority of the time. ( not always but a lot of times) that's one way. If your radiator manufacture of choice deviated from stock design and the stock fittings (lmc) do not fit and are not changeable , well it's still not an inline problem/fault or lmc problem/fault. Its your problem wether you accept that or not , and since you cry about 4.00 I'm more than reasonably certain you got the cheapest radiator available, again that was your choice. Never would any truly mechanically inclined individual thing of cross threading fluid fittings. I never suggested that to you, however you did ask if you should do that.

    You might think I'm a dumb ass, but I'm not the one having issues with a cooler line, I'm not the one walking.


    Why the name calling?
    Did you get picked on as a child ?
    I can see there is a sense of entitlement that comes thru in your posts. There is help for that you know.
     
  25. 1959apache
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    I don't think its you, nor do I blame shift onto other people that do their job, I expect to get what I pay for (you have a difficulty understanding this and/or just don't read things). I don't need encouragement, nor do I need your pity, just simply looking for a part that I thought existed. None of your posts have helped me in anyway on any of my other threads, including this one, all you want to do is follow me around and harass me.

    Obviously you think I am not busting my ass trying to get this fixed nor have the mechanical ability to figure this out. I exhausted all of my other options locally and what I could find on my internet searches. That is why I posted on here to see if they made what I am looking for because other people are more knowledgeable than I am on a subject or have a different thought process. I know nothing ever fits, I didn't expect what I got to be perfect, I expected some work. That company does good work for other things that I have seen and heard, they just failed big time with my order. I just expected them to be a lot closer for the price and for them to not fit like crap, the tranny cooler issue aside.

    The fittings I was looking for don't exist, so that question was answered, and the whole reason for the thread. On to the next step. Thanks to all who helped, I greatly appreciate it.
     
  26. what about drilling the radiator, tapping and inserting a helicoil the size you need and be done?
     
  27. Such the victim.
    Not helpful?? Page 1 post #8 - the first post to tell you that this fitting doesn't exist.

    Remedial reading class with comprehension emphasis.
    Some talk Therapy to help with the anger issues and victim mentality
    Maybe some help with reality
    And a Kia .

    4 things to make you happier.
     
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  28. Belchfire8
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    If I'm looking at that correctly I would just screw a street el into the rad and then screw a flare to NPT adapter into the other end of the street el...could it be that simple?
     
  29. Pops1532
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    I can't tell you where to find the fitting you're after, but I can tell you what I'd do.

    Option 1.Buy two fittings (each will have one end that you need). Cut them and braze them together.
    Option 2. Remove the fitting from the radiator and replace it with one that has a NPT.
    Option 3. Bend the line and use flare fitting that's on the line now and replace the fan with one that's smaller in diameter.

    Option 4. And if none of those options were workable I'd mount a trans cooler in front of the rad and plumb directly to it and bypass the cooler in the rad.

    Some or all of those options may not meet your criteria. My criteria would be to get the thing on the road. I don't like walking.
     

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