things ain't going as smoothly or quickly as i had planned on the poncho, so I'm gonna have to paint it without the body as smooth as i was hoping too, so now I"m trying to figure out a paint scheme that won't make the blemishes stick out too bad. THe colors I'm working with are black, blue and silver, and the rood is already silver w/silver flake so I don't think putting it on the body would look too good, the seats are light blue T&R, with a black headliner and carpet. I thought scallops might help take away from the blemishes, and i was thinking mayeb a suede body color with gloss scallops, but i don't know how you go about getting eveything smooth like that since it seems to me if you wetsand and buff the flat clear, it'll just turn glossy right? Anyways hopefully you guys can help me figure something out. Heres a pic if anyone wants to play.
Why can't ya get the body as smooth as it needs to be.Most paint jobs are usually lacking about 7-10 days extra work to make them nice and straight.Just remember the price of paint!Might as well get it right the first time.
what ever you do don't spray black or silver over a blimish try and set up your scheme to avoid bad areas with these colors.
I use the local comunity college body shop as my shop, which means I have to have things wrapped up in a certain amount of time, I have ALOT to finish up on the car and only about a month to do it all.
ok how about this. instead of wasting money to do a half ass paint job and try to hide the fact that the body work sucks why not just spray it with corrosion resistant primer and take your time about getting the body work right. you'll be mile ahead of doing a quick cheap shit job. you got the roof looking good why fuck up a good thing now. it looks from your updates like your making pretty decent progress. are you setting a date the car need to be painted by. if so throw that shit out the window. having a date you'd like for it to be painted is cool, but don't skimp on the quality of work just so you can have it "in paint". look at the fact that i've got to redo the buick because i took it to a half ass because i didn't have time to do it and i wanted it painted. well two years later the paint sucks. well actually it sucked from the get go. thats why i changed my priorities and will never send a car to anyone. which now that i dropped the crazy job i have time to work on my shit. hell i've even finally got myself a shop now. it's amazing what you can to when you sit down and prioritize everything.anyhow back to the subject at hand yes cororesist primer may be more money, but it buys you time to do things right. when you consider that the price isn't that bad. it won't be nearly as expensive as going back and repainting a car because your unhappy with the bad job you tried to hide. ppg ncp272 is good shit,tintable,and not really too bad price wise for what you get. not trying to tell you what to do, but you may save yourself regrets if you follow this path. i'm still trying to move the ford for you but everyone talks alot of shit about wanting it and then apparently never follows through. wish i could do more. i'd offer use of some shop space for a while if i thought it would help , but your to far away for that to be much help really and until i get setup in there this weekend i don't really know how much space will be left. should be room but who knows right. do a few tattoos on a few smooos around your area earn a few bucks and spray that thing down with cororesist primer of some kind and give yourself some more work time. you could even mix a few different colors of it up and play with scallops and stuff in the primer stage. remember it is tintable.either way i would say don't spray a half prepped body. didn't you want to do this car to get you some attention so you could start painting a few cars from your area? spray a car with half ass body work and people will assume thats what all your paint jobs will look like. a good paint job may bring you a few future jobs. a bad one will likely send you to the poorhouse. another idea, is there anyone in your class that doesn't have a project right now or has a project they aren't in a hurry to finish. maybe go to them or your teacher and see if you can get some help and maybe return the faver and help that person when your done. as i've said i did 3 years of highschool votech autobody and i spent alot of time helping other people and had other people helping me on my constant projects to. it nevers hurts to ask. anyhow let me know how things turn out and don't let your expectations run all over you. as the saying goes sometimes you just need to step back and evaluate the situation...ken....
I didn't set a date, i just have about that much time until the end of the school year. The car is getting a for sale sign as soon as I'm done anyway since i found the 32 & 34 trucks, and two 47 Chevies. I can get the whole lot for $1250. I'm gonna have to let the car go so i can take taht money for mroe cars and tools that hopefully I'll be able to turn into means for me to start a shop. Trust me I want the car smooth as silk, and I can probaly get it pretty close, I'm just being realistic. I've had people on my ass about money too, so that's just adding to the fact that it needs to get done and sold. I have to finish smoothing out the body, Get the doors opening and closing smoothly (which is being a motherfucker since i put in the bearclaws), pull the dash back out, put in the new fuel gauge and gas sender, Wetsand the dash, spra more clear on it, then wetsand and buff it, finish th wiring, hook up the heater, reistal the dash, put on new steering wheel, strip and smooth bumpers, put in the carpet, paint the car, paint the bumpers, then wetsand and buff everything.....In about a month.....As far as getting help from other people at the shop, ain't gonna happen, half of them are busy on other things, and the other half just don't do anything but stand around bullshitting and smoking cigarettes. I even tried bribing some people but they'd work for like 20 minutes and then be like, "I'm going home". Even my teacher is being pretty useless, I'm getting really frustrated with the whole place. I'm done with classes after this semester so next year I'll just be auditing classes, then I'll have the shop without any of the school bullshit. It'll be just like going to work.
If you are going to put paint over shitty bodywork and then try to sell it, that's just more work for the buyer to have to strip off and start over. Besides he's going to logically think you are including the price of the wasted paint in what you are asking for it. If you are just going to sell it DON'T paint it! Yea, I know you need the grade in class...Round up another car, friend's mother's neighbor's car that needs painting but doesn't need body work and paint that for your grade. You won't be doing a buyer any favors painting a car that still needs prep, trust me!
Maybe I'm making it out like the car is in alot worse shape body wise than it really is. There is only one spot the still needs more than just a little tlc and it's gonna be the first thing to be taken care of. Everything else is just a little low spot here, or high spot there, I just don't know if I'm gonna have time to get ALL of it taken car of. I was just wondering what would be the best color to use so I wouldn't make the few little spots that may be left look really bad. I'm guessing the blue would probaly be the best, which was my original plan....
there was a metallic electric blue that was used on dodge trucks in the late 90s that is a cool color. you could go to your ppg dealer buy yourself that or a similar blue in the omni line and go that route i guess. is there some of the work you could do outside of school to stretch your time a bit. such as the heater deal? if you need why bother getting the dash perfect if your not gonna get the outside perfect. some things can wait, so can't figure which one can wait the longest and put 'em last on the list. you may find that the hard shit happened faster than expected and now you've got the time to do all of it. i'll go back to the heat thing and say i drove one of my old daily cars an entire winter here a few years ago. even drove home to alabama for christmas in it. yeah it sucked, but thats why they make coats and gloves and things of that nature. as i said not trying to be an asshole but sit down and prioritze things. you'll see areas where you can bend a little i bet. i had to bite the bullet on the shop thing. yea i now have a rent bill due on the 15th of every month along with the rent i already pay. yeah 135 a month is cheap, but it's 135 a month i can't send on a car, but i know i'll get things done faster and not blow money on other shit if i've got a shop to work in. got shit sitting around your house your not using? sell it. if it's not doing you any good get rid of it and use the money for things that will do you good. i'm in the process of doing that right now. i'm not broke, but there are things i'd like to get like the compressor in the shop i just rented is for sale so i'm selling a bunch of music equip. that i haven't been messing with for a while. i even offered to sell someone my bass amp that took me like 5 years to find in good condition. yeh it'll suck seeing some of this stuff go, but it'll be good to see the shit i can get with the money to. sometime ya just gotta let go of some shit and move on. why not try and sell part of the lot of other cars you mentioned and keep one or two for yourself. maybe even wind up getting to keep one of 'em for free from selling the rest. just because you make a little money or get a free project out of a deal doesn't mean your trying to fuck people over. it just means you ran across a good deal and passed some of it on at a reasonable deal. now if you tried to make a shitload of money off of 'em then thats not so cool. you move shit and be better off by far by being reasonable. things to think about. but above all else i still say don't spray a half prepped car esp. if you plan to sell it. i wouldn't buy a car with a half ass paint job unless it was ccchhheeeaaappp. once again if there's anything i can do to help let me know....ken....
ppg DP primer comes in light blue. the real problem is most people buying old cars want em shiny.at least here they do. dunno about how it works in the states, but I can hire a booth with a proffesional painter for $60 hr here,he'll even help me mask up fer nuthin!so get it straight,DP it,then finish it after schools out...
ken is this a shop just fo ryou to work on your own shit, or are you gonna be doing this for your jobby job? Give me a run down on the place.
j, the shop is for me to work out of. after the plymouth is done i may start taking a few cars in. it's a 24x32 shop so i can fit a few cars in at a time. i guess it would depend on the car. the bick is so fucking big it will probably take up one side by itself. i don't know i guess i'll have to get in there and see how things go. let me know if you need anything...ken....
that's cool. So your not at the tattoo shop anymore? What are ya doin' for a living if your not? Busted my ass for the last 6 1/2 hours on the pontiac and found yet more smoothing to be done (arg) all i gotta say is damn people who use front fenders for a bench. If i see anyone so much as lean on the wrong spot of this car when i finish I'm gonna rock their fuckin' jaw. Gonna stick with the original plan and just bust as much ass as i possibly can to get this fucker smooth. We'll see how if goes, If it weren't for the T-giving break I'd have plenty of time. Damn holidays.
luckystiff, the color you're referring to is called intense blue pearlcoat. We used it on the wayfarer.
I don't have the paint code for it, but it's a Dodge pickup color. The pain that we used was from PPG. Just go to your local paint supply and ask to see their paint chip books. Find the late 90's chrysler colors and then "intense blue pearlcoat". I think that it also came on neons, but I'm not sure.
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