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HELP - Stromberg 4bbl Carb

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Flat Ernie, Dec 19, 2008.

  1. Flat Ernie
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    Anyone know anything about the Stromberg 4 bbl carbs - I think they're called Aeroquads - used on Buicks (early '50s)?

    Good, bad, comparable to WCFB??

    Any rebuild stuff avail?

    Reason I ask is someone gave me one and don't know anything about 'em...
     
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  2. Flat Ernie
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    bttt - nobody?
     
  3. banjorear
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    I almost bought an NOS one from a guy who deals in old carbs. He claimed they are superior to the WCFB's. They just didn't catch on or give the manufactors enough of a discount to be used on more production stuff.

    I'll dig around to see if I can find his info. I'm sure he has a kit for them.

    IMHO I think they look better than a WCFB. Good score.
     
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    from NW Indiana

  5. Flat Ernie
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    Thanks guys - I hadn't even searched online yet - figured if there was any info, it'd be here.
     
  6. jetmek
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    i know kits are available. bought one from a hershey vendor a couple of years ago. works pretty good on a flathead but but similar to the 97's doesnt like a lot of fuel press
     
  7. Flat Ernie
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    I've got a nice rebuilt WCFB that will probably go on the flathead first, but the Stromberg might get a rebuild and go on for grins - neat to say I've got a Stromberg and when I pop the hood, there's a 4bbl! ;)
     
  8. oldsman71
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    that would be cool!!!
     
  9. carbking
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    Excellent carb, more expensive than their contemporary Carter WCFB, Holley 4000, and Rochester 4-GC. 3 different versions used by Buick. Stromberg was in the running for Dodge in 1955, but Carter came in with a lower price.

    Jon.
     
  10. Flat Ernie
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    Thanks for the info, Jon. I think there's a tag on the thing - would that tell us anything useful, or is one rebuild kit pretty much the same as the next?
     
  11. R Pope
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    Had one 40 years ago. I seem to recall an incredible number of tiny parts, but maybe I was just young and dumb!
     
  12. Cshabang
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    my buddy had one on his 53 ford, flattie powered, it was an awesome carb..never gave him any trouble...was LOUD when you opened up the secondaries...haha
     
  13. Flat Ernie
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    They look like air valve secondaries like the WCFB I've got...lower throttle plates are directly linked to primaries, but upper plates are weighted.

    I just moved it around the garage a bit - taking a break from cleaning and reorganizing...
     
  14. carbking
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    Ernie - Stromberg used three different identification numbers on their carburetors:

    (1) Stromberg "sales" number. Most in the 1950's were 6 digit and were in the format 381xxx or 382xxx. Found on the tag, if the tag is present. Not a very useful number unless you happen to have the Stromberg sales catalogue.

    (2) O.E. (original manufacturer) sales number, in this case Buick. Also found on the tag, if the tag is present. Even less useful, unless you happen to have a Buick Master parts book.

    (3) Stromberg "code" number. This number is stamped (NOT RAISED) on the top of the top casting. These numbers are in the format ccc-nnn(m). Where ccc is a one, two, or three digit number which is the code number for the company (in this case Buick); the nnn is a sequential one, two, or three digit number representing the sequential number of carb sold by Stromberg to that manufacturer; and the m represents the engineering modification status. Since this carb would have originally been sold to Buick, the "company" number would be 7. The sequential number would have been 92, 94, or 98. The engineering modification number, if present, would be an "A" for the first modification, a "B" for the second.....etc. So the first modification for a 1952 Buick 70 series with Stromberg would be stamped 7-92A. All three carbs take different repair kits. The code number is the number you should use when attempting to purchase a kit; although some vendors may be able to cross-reference any of the three.

    Jon.
     
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  16. Flat Ernie
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    While cleaning the garage today, I sprayed the heck out of the carb with brake cleaner and the tag is just a rebuilders tag. Looks in pretty good shape - everything moves as it should, but it's missing a bowl plug...wonder if the 2bbl bowl plugs will work...
     
  17. Bruce Lancaster
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    I believe I have seen early articles saying that it was superior to the Carter and Rochester ones of the first generation...
    I MAY have cataloging on it; I have a HUGE Stromberg parts book, but have never looked for that. A few part numbers might well ID the application.
    Search Google Advanced Patent--a well written patent would give a lot of operating info.
    There are several 4BBL rebuilds in the early mags, I think including this one, but I have no idear where I saw the article in my heap of stuff.
     
  18. I'll have to watch this thread. I have a small base Stromberg that needs to go on a Sharp single 4 barrel flathead intake. I also heard they were a good carb.

    I ran my tag #s and searched for a rebuild kit. They are available.
     
  19. Bruce Lancaster
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    Take a look at the Bohnalite patent I posted yesterday...this shows the Bohn/Ford patent for the invention of the 180 manifold that transformed the flathead. I had not noticed before...it specifies a four barrel carb! Engineering work probably '32-3, patent application 1935. Cheapskate Henry apparently cut two barrels out of the plan, inadvertently creating the speed industry...2104178
     
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